Saturday, October 18, 2014

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: suggestions on Outer Banks surf fishing

Yang,
That tent thing in a OBX environment can be troublesome especially when the winds really begin to howl.  You can make this anchor system out of plywoob and it is the best system for anchoring your tent.  Just bury the plywood pieces in the sand. http://www.amazon.com/Sand-Anchoring-System-Beach-Tents/dp/B00D60ENK4    

When I lived in the Morehead City area of the lower OBX, and even though I could see the CALO lighthouse on a good day, it was a journey to get out to the cape.  So, I used to go to the west end of Shackelford Island which is the west tip of CALO Nat Park.  You can catch a ferry from Beaufort.  It's a ten minute ride.  The ferry runs every hour till sundown.  You can camp and the fishing there can be quite good.  If you don't want to camp, you can sleep in a real bed somewhere in the area.   If you want to go to the cape, stay in Harkers Island and use the ferry service that runs out of there.  http://www.nps.gov/calo/naturescience/horses.htm

If you need any other info on that area, just drop me a line.

John 

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Yang Chang <yangchang@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi John:

Like I said, I started my saltwater fishing in Boston area, so striper is my old friend. I have caught striper from Maine to Virginia, mostly on lures. Specs and red drum are something new for me. I caught some red drum with light tackle on a charter boat in Crisfield and was impressed by the fight. If I only have one day, I'd go DE for striper and blue; for two or three days, I prefer to go OBX or further south. 

Cape Lookout National Sea Shore is a place I really want to go. Since I just start to explore the OBX, I am thinking maybe it is easy for me to start from Oregon Inlet because I have more resource. To camp in Cape Lookout, at least I need to know how to secure my tent in the sand. Maybe I can start from just a day trip in Cape Lookout to get a general idea. 

I will try to take couple days off at 11/8 weekend. And if I don't go FL, most likely, I will go OBX again, either Oregon Inlet or Cape Lookout. 

Thanks!

Yang

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:23 PM, John Mathews <lowcountryneophyte@gmail.com> wrote:
Yang, 
That fall run of big blues and stripers on the Jersey/Delaware/Eastern Shore of VA looks like it would be fun.

If you make it to OBX, hope you have a good trip.

I was going to suggest that you give a trip to Cape Lookout National Sea Shore a serious consideration for a fall trip.  False Albacore, spanish, blues, trout and drum.  Ferry to and from or you can camp or rent a cottage .  They now rent 4X4 or you can take your own.  Neat place and a real experience. http://www.nps.gov/calo/index.htm    http://www.davisferry.com/

John

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Yang Chang <yangchang@gmail.com> wrote:
John,

I am thinking to go OBX again in November, maybe the 11/8 weekend. The tide will be morning and evening high tides, and water temperature maybe just below 70. I hope I can bring a better report next month. If I can't make it, I will try to go Delaware to check if the fall run arrives.

Smith,

I saw couple people fishing the coast guard station side. Will give a try next trip.

Thanks!

Yang

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:14 PM, John Mathews <lowcountryneophyte@gmail.com> wrote:
Yang,
And so goes a trip to the OBX.  There are two prevailing wind direction on the OBX, SW and NE. Each blows hard with an approaching and passing front.   Any other wind directions are transitional winds and short lived.  Seldom is the time that you get a lull but when you do, usually only during the heart of summer or winter seasons,  you usually wind up hoping it will blow again as the bugs are about to eat you alive or every thing has gone into a lull.   Through my years of fishing the OBX with a fly rod,  I had to learn where I could go to get sheltered from the winds or get them at an angle that I could deal with it.  Some times, I just had to bite the bullet and cast into winds that I really would rather not deal with as that's where the fish were.  During difficult wind time, I would prospect with a spinning rod and once fish were found, change up to fly.  While the OBX is a unique and beautiful place, it can be quite trying at times.  If the fish in the pic 3rd from left id your unknown fish, it is a lizard fish.  While considered trash, they have saved many a day of fishing as the only thing I caught.  They also can get to 2-3 pounds.  Hope your next trip is a better one.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Yang Chang <yangchang@gmail.com> wrote:
It is my duty to report this trip to appreciate everybody's help here.

I arrived at OBX at Saturday afternoon. After I set up the tent in Oregon campground, I drove back and forth the Bonner bridge and then decided to start from Bodie Island Lighthouse. The wind blew from south, warm and humid. I decided to use the DH rod and soon I found my DH skills couldn't deal well with the condition, strong wind and very slow current. I need more D-days :-(  One hour later, the 20 mph northeast wind came and brought a heavy thunderstorm. I drove back to the campground, but I couldn't find my tent! It was rolled over to other site and the situation of other tents were not better than mine. Most of the campers left after the disaster and I ended up sleeping in my car for two nights.

I was exhausted and missed the first light next morning. I also missed a blue fish bite on my fly at the southwest jetty of Bonner bridge. Waded to propeller slough around noon time high tide, no action. Asked around, only one guy caught a flounder in the morning. Fished the southeast jetty in the afternoon, and finally landed a baby speckled trout on fly. My first fish on fly in OBX! 

Sunday morning, the wind changed to south. caught couple small blue fish at sunrise and no action the rest of the morning except an unknown fish on fly. In the afternoon, I met with Bruce in Duck beach and both of us hooked flounders with spinning rods but didn't land them. Thanks Bruce for your help and wish your have great fishing days the rest of your vacation. 

Oregon Inlet is a great place for me to explore. It has flats, sound, jetty, marsh, inlet, oceanfront....everything I need for saltwater fly fishing. Will try to go back again next month or next spring. Over the weekend, I was the only angler using fly gears over there. Maybe I should consider to  take a spinning rod as backup for my next trip, however, it did pushed me to think the fly fishing way when I don't have a backup.

Thanks again!

Yang

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:54 PM, John Smith <nativesuv@gmail.com> wrote:
When I fished from the beach south of Hatteras I just walked in from the museum parking lot and looked for birds and fish activity right away. I never walked all the way to the inlet. I did fish the inlet area from a boat though. You won't really know what you have until you get there. Hopefully the ocean swell and winds won't be too big.

At Bodie Island I actually caught more fish when the tide slowed down (can't remember which tide though). It can move through pretty quickly in that spot so you need a sink tip or full sinking line to keep it down. That is a good spot if there is an onshore wind (that makes fishing the ocean tough).

I have tried both ocean side and sound side south of Oregon Inlet but don't recall catching anything when I was last there. Just be careful wading those locations.

On Friday, October 10, 2014 8:17:15 AM UTC-4, deepwater wrote:
Hi John:

I am going to spend a full day in the Hatteras Inlet and two half-days in the Oregon Inlet. I have some questions.

After you park at the museum and walk to the beach, do you try to walk all the way the the Hatteras Inlet?

The tide will be morning incoming and afternoon outgoing. What tide do you prefer for the Bodie Lighthouse? For the spot of the south of the Oregon Inlet, do you fish the west (sound) side at the incoming tide or east (ocean) side at the outgoing?

Thanks!

Yang


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:39 PM, John Smith <nati...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yang, if you fish the oceanside keep an eye out for false albacore. Down close to Hatteras Inlet the beach is pretty steep there and I have seen them chase baitfish right up on the beach. Should be perfect time of year for those guys. One of the best fly rod fish out there. 

On Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:31:09 PM UTC-4, deepwater wrote:
Hello Bruce:

I will leave Saturday early morning, and try to arrive the Oregon inlet or south Hatteras around noon time and will leave OBX Monday evening. Is it possible we fish together on Sunday or Monday?

Thanks!

Yang



On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:51 PM, 'Bruce Mathews' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hi Yang,

This is Bruce - I am John's brother.  He does catch a lot of fish.  Has KID Luck.  Anyway, I am leaving Friday PM heading for OBX at Duck, NC.  Will be at Duck Saturday Morning for a week.  I have an Oct. timeshare week in Duck and have been down often.  If you arrive at the south end of the Oregon Inlet bridge around sunrise I have always found some smaller stripers where the water first comes under the bridge.  Out from there and around the rocks (in front of the old CG station) there are often some trout (John and I almost choked an egret one day feeding him small trout from that area).  The mouth of the inlet on the south side had some pretty good rips for stripers when last I was there.  Would probably work well with the two handed rod.  The north side of the inlet is accessible via 4WD from the campground opposite the marina.  You might ask at the Marina store about the condition of the drive down the beach.  A storm some years back took a great deal of the beach leaving access almost only at low tide.  Good trout fishing around on that side.   I will be fishing mainly in Duck in the surf.  If you are there for more than the weekend give me a call on the number below.   We are going down in only one car this year (my canoe is staying home) but we might can arrange to fish some together.  One other place to try if you are  staying down Nags Head direction is the slough behind the Bodie Island Light House.  Park along the fence way opposite the light house and take the gravel road about a half mile to the water.  Typical sound side water for trout and reds.  Good luck while you are there.
 
Bruce Mathews
703.772.7167


On Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:27 PM, Yang Chang <yang...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello John:

Thanks for the information, very helpful! I plan to fish from Saturday to Monday, and the tide will change to noon time high tide at weekend. I have clouser with different colors except for the pink, will go to BPS tonight to find the pink bucktail. Never use a half and half, will to try to tie couple. I am going to try the DH rod for the oceanfront. The line is skagit line (floating), with floating, intermediate, and T8/T14 leaders.

John Smith recommended the south beach from Ferry/Coast Guard Station to Cape Hatteras Inlet in previous email. I may start from there and then fish the Oregon inlet on the way back. At this time of the year, should I focus on the ocean side or sound side?

Thanks again!

Yang




On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:21 AM, John Mathews <lowcountr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yang,
I fished the SoObx for a number of year almost daily.  The attached link is a tide table.  That receding tide occurring at 9am is a good tide to fish..  Look for any tidal rips and or eddies and fish them.  Anywhere you see bait running hard, fish it.  Fishing an outgoing tide on an inlet is alot like fishing a river.  Clousers in pink, chart, blue, drk grn over white or a tutti-fruiti color, size 2 will work well.  A few surf candies are good too.  Through the years I found that a 3" fly will out produce a 4" or larger fly.  With being said, make sure you carry a Half and Half in Char/white.  If you run across a feed going on on menhaden, use it.  You might find a surface feed going on so carry a WF-F line and some poppers....that's alot of fun.  One thing, be careful.  The currents can be deadly especially if you're in waders.

Good luck,
John
   
 
http://www.tides4fishing.com/us/north-carolina/oregon-inlet

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 12:16:57 AM UTC-5, deepwater wrote:
Hey all:

I am planning to surf fish outer banks next weekend with my 9wt SH and 7wt DH, both equipped with floating, intermediate, and sinking line system. I also have surf rods but I'd rather use the fly rods if it is doable at this season. This will be my first time to surf fish there so I don't have specific target. Just hope I can get some actions. I wonder if anybody can give me some suggestions on season, location, fly shop, and flies? The tide of next weekend is morning and evening high tide.

Thanks!

Yang  
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