Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Reading the River gauges

I know the feeling. its forced me to keep a log.  i just made a template so to speek in word and fill one out everytime im on the water and have folders for each river.  with just general info like date, temp both air and water, time of day, water clarity and CFS and what i caught.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett

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On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:29 PM, HeaveToo <cpd032@hotmail.com> wrote:

I was mainly referring to areas like Kelly's Ford on the Rappahannock River and like places.  The places were you can legally park and wade and leave the gray areas out of it for now.  The thing could always be updated.

I sit here and look at the gauges trying to remember what the river level was the last time I waded a particular section of river, like at Riverbend Park.  It is a great disappointment to drive 45 minutes only to find out the section of river you are now at is not safe for wading or fishing conditions are bad!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Reading the River gauges

I was mainly referring to areas like Kelly's Ford on the Rappahannock River and like places.  The places were you can legally park and wade and leave the gray areas out of it for now.  The thing could always be updated.

I sit here and look at the gauges trying to remember what the river level was the last time I waded a particular section of river, like at Riverbend Park.  It is a great disappointment to drive 45 minutes only to find out the section of river you are now at is not safe for wading or fishing conditions are bad!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin anyone?

I'e never had any problem with it.  I had one park police office inquire in three years and after talking with him, it was not an issue.  I would make sure that it is not high tide due to the water level going over the wall.  If your feet are wet, they consider it wading.  That being said, I'm pretty sure Snowhite's large snakehead he caught (last year?) was there at high tide.  I know everyone states that they catch a lot of fish near the trees agains the walls but my best days (8 fish, 5 species) have been in that area casting out into the center.

P.S.  I ended up getting skunked myself without even a nibble.  Only thing I got is wet.  I did have a red fox walk about 20 yards from me before turning around.  That was cool.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Reading the River gauges

I think it's a good idea, but beware the current 'WaderGate" situation going on with the Potomac.  

Posting ideal levels for wading would be equivalent to posting ideal times to park in disabled/loading zones when no one has a disabled tag or is unloading a truck.  

Gene

On Friday, May 30, 2014 9:35:27 PM UTC-4, Paul Kalajainen wrote:

I think that's a great idea.  I'm sure most of that info exists in old threads, but having it somewhere easy to reference would be great.

Paul

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Reading the River gauges

I think that's a great idea.  I'm sure most of that info exists in old threads, but having it somewhere easy to reference would be great.

Paul

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Reading the River gauges

I realize that we have a section on google maps with some of the fishing locations.

I think that it would be nice if we can create information on the river gauges.  What I mean by this is to post out what the "safe" levels are for the river for wading.  We could do this for the Potomac River, Rappahannock River, Shenandoah River, and other local fisheries.  It would also be helpful to know what the levels are for the clarity of the water.

This wouldn't mean real time data.  This would be more like a sticky that would give you base information so that if you checked out a river gauge and saw it's current and predicted level you could determine if it would be a good time to fish, if it was safe to fish, and other important information.

Just a thought.  Anyone else think that this is a good idea?

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Indian River Inlet

Awesome!

 

I found sinking line to be a little overkill, unless spey casting. To me even my 10ft sinking tip was too much at low tide.

 

A couple other words of wisdom:

 

1)            Don't let the bait guys give you crap about fishing too close to them.

2)            The end of the jetties is where it's at. All other areas you'll catch about ½ as much, which is the problem. The "regulars" definitely know this and don't rotate if you know what I mean.

3)            Get there and set up about an hour or 2 before the tide change. Fishing through the next hour or so. I found nearly all the bait and action tapered off dramatically an hr or so after the tide changed.

4)            I found a tandem rig to be most effective

5)            If you plan to fish the jetties you must, must have a stripping basket and either felt or similar grip for the rocks, which are extremely slippery.

6)            Almost all of my hook-up with the schoolies occurred within a few feet of the jetty.

 

It's also interesting to note that I fished the incoming tide from the south shore-bay side and that was where I caught the weakfish. Park for free at the very end of the public area, just before you reach the private homes. There is a slight pool/eddy and when the tide changes, the current rips through. I saw a ton of stripers working this area hard.

 

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Indian River Inlet

 

Great job Marek! I was also fishing Indian River Inlet that weekend for the first time. While I wasn't dressed appropriately to brave the jetty, I did find space under the bridge and using my 8wt and sinking line, quickly got into some very nice sized hickory shad.

 

I saw a monster speckled trout/weaky landed on conventional gear and a few stripers. 

 

Will definitely be hitting this fishery more often!

 

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:24:17 PM UTC-4, Marek wrote:

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> I was fortunate to sneak away from the wife and kiddos for a few hours over the holiday weekend at the Indian River Inlet. For those unaware, the inlet sits somewhat between Bethany Beach and Dewey Beach, Delaware.
>
> Not really knowing what to expect, I went out on a particularly windy Saturday morning to find the jetties on the ocean side fairly packed. Armed with my 7wt and a ton of clousers I set out around 6:30, with more than one quizzical look from the "regulars" who nearly exclusively fish big spin rigs. The tide was just about to change to outgoing, and having learned over the years fishing Gravely Point, that should mean bait and bait eaters should be active. The wind proved quite challenging along with the crashing waves, but I managed to have a blast pulling in schoolies and a monster sea trout. The trout nearly pulled me in!
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Indian River Inlet

Great job Marek! I was also fishing Indian River Inlet that weekend for the first time. While I wasn't dressed appropriately to brave the jetty, I did find space under the bridge and using my 8wt and sinking line, quickly got into some very nice sized hickory shad.

I saw a monster speckled trout/weaky landed on conventional gear and a few stripers. 

Will definitely be hitting this fishery more often!

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:24:17 PM UTC-4, Marek wrote:

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> I was fortunate to sneak away from the wife and kiddos for a few hours over the holiday weekend at the Indian River Inlet. For those unaware, the inlet sits somewhat between Bethany Beach and Dewey Beach, Delaware.
>
> Not really knowing what to expect, I went out on a particularly windy Saturday morning to find the jetties on the ocean side fairly packed. Armed with my 7wt and a ton of clousers I set out around 6:30, with more than one quizzical look from the "regulars" who nearly exclusively fish big spin rigs. The tide was just about to change to outgoing, and having learned over the years fishing Gravely Point, that should mean bait and bait eaters should be active. The wind proved quite challenging along with the crashing waves, but I managed to have a blast pulling in schoolies and a monster sea trout. The trout nearly pulled me in!
>

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: More water closed to wading

We can't wade in the river but it has been legal to swim off of National Harbor:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/national-harbor-suspends-swims-amid-insurance-dispute/2014/05/28/11231afa-e299-11e3-8dcc-d6b7fede081a_story.html

On Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:41:43 PM UTC-4, Bob R wrote:

I drove down to Kelly's Ford this morning to fish the Rappahannock and found the area closed to all activities except launching of boats.  There is drop off into a pool just upstream of the bridge that I've been fishing for years.  That pool because of the depth and sandy beach area was popular with swimmers as well.  This morning I found "No Swimming", "Area Off Limits", and a few other signs that basically say unless you're launching a boat you're trespassing. I don't know why VDGIF shut the area down but I assume it's probably for the same reasons the Park Service have in D.C. waters.  Very disappointing if a few who don't know their limits have closed off miles of river to the rest of us.    Some of the signage. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin anyone?

I like a suggestion I heard before.... Wear ear buds and ignore people. That way they think you can't hear them. We were skunked on Monday there as well

My question is what is the policy on fishing infront of the Jefferson memorial beyond the chains and jersey wall. Is it allowed?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Indian Island fishing in Long Island NY

Stripers Online should be able to assist.  Nice forum for fly fisherman--nod to Dan--not as nice as this one.

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Aaron O wrote:

Camping over the last weekend of June at Indian Island county park on Long Island NY.  It is located at Flanders Bay that runs into the Great Peconic Bay and the Peconic River.  I grew up in the area but I never fished then.  I should have access to a canoe so that should help.  Anyone have any experience with fishing this area at this time of year.  Any suggestions? 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: My new bass killers!

Nice ties, Aden.

Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Indian Island fishing in Long Island NY

Camping over the last weekend of June at Indian Island county park on Long Island NY.  It is located at Flanders Bay that runs into the Great Peconic Bay and the Peconic River.  I grew up in the area but I never fished then.  I should have access to a canoe so that should help.  Anyone have any experience with fishing this area at this time of year.  Any suggestions? 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin anyone?

Gene, 

      I prefer your suggestion from a past post….Fishing in your wading boots, underwear, a hat and simply BARK! at anyone that gets too close to you.  This is why I get along with you, you have the same mentality that I do.  

      Give me a call as I tried calling you but your phone is off.  I want to ask you a question or two.

Aaron

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin anyone?

Aaron!  

First order of business is to repel competitors!  Some friendly person asks you a question?  Answer politely.  Another person asks a question 2 minutes later?  Still be polite, but make the answer more concise.  3rd person asks a question?  You make weedeater sounds and maintain eye contact until they walk away.  Really put effort into it -- you want nylon cord gnashing woody vegetation, turning your socks green at 200 mph.  

Gene

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:37:19 AM UTC-4, Aaron O wrote:

       I have the afternoon off on Thursday and plan to fish the Tidal Basin starting around 2 pm until dark.  I don't know about anyone else but I've ben skunked more times that I want to admit here but I can't seem to give up on the place.  I know people catch fish all the time here and I consider it a personal challenge to catch some large size fish here.  It also doesn't hurt just how close it is for me to fish it (approximately 5 metro stops on the same metro line I normally use).  I've spoken to multiple people in the group and everyone of course says the same suggestions (follow the wall, incoming and outgoing tides, both cast along the wall and out into the basin, etc..), I just need to make it work for me.

       I plan on bringing my 7 wt. with clousers, woolly buggers, shad darts, and other baitfish patterns and my 5 wt. with floating line for possible top water action.  I have not decided whether to use my floating line or my sinking (depth charge) line on the 7 wt. as I know the debt charge is over kill but I want to make sure my flies are getting to the bottom where it seems like most people are catching fish currently.  I don't know how deep the water gets but I'm guessing 20 feet deep towards the center.

       If anyone is interested in joining me, please feel free to contact me or just look for me on the water. I'll be the guy cursing at the fly stuck in the trees. 

Aaron

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 6th Grade Science Curriculum

Molly,

I used to run FYCC and have participated in a ton of kids fishing events for USFWS and Trout in the Classroom. It is easy to keep kids that age engaged in fishing really.  Jim is an excellent contact and Trout in the Classroom is a great program. They do a final outing with some of the schools where they release the fish and learn a little fly casting.

There is also the National Fishing in Schools Program - http://www.fishinginschools.org/. They sell a complete unit, meant for your age group, that includes tackle, casting targets, stream critters, lessons, etc. It has been adopted by many schools in the region and they periodically run training classes in the region to teach mentors how to assist teachers in the program. Cause, if I've learned anything from teaching so many kids through the years, you can't have too much help when you put these kids on the water.

If you want a taste and want to meet people working in this area, come to FYCC! It was postponed due to flooding this year and will happen on June 14th. Come volunteer or just come down to observe. http://www.familyandyouthcastingcall.com/volunteers/member

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions (brad@gentnergroup.com).

Brad

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:54:41 PM UTC-7, Molly Hokkanen wrote:

Carl, this looks awesome! An easy grant proposal and BOOM! New class pet/ educational tool. 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Carl Smolka <carl....@verizon.net> wrote:

Molly,

Trout in the classroom might be an idea to consider. I think there are around 70 schools in MD currently engaged. Jim Greene (jgr...@waterwisp.com) is the expert.

Carl

Mobile via Verizon

 

On May 28, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Molly Hokkanen <molly.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sending out a feeler message for ideas about teaching 6th graders how to fish. 

Next year, I'll teach an estimated 60, 6th graders. Every year we do something called Chesapeake Week, where we take a week or two of intensive study to focus on our watershed. This year was my first year at the school and I kind of ran with the established program. Next year I would really like to improve upon the curriculum and add in a few more perspectives. I'm also in charge of the new Middle School outdoor rec program (~20 person limit). We've already teamed up with Calleva and Earth Treks, and I think adding one more element, for before the weather turns foul would be nice. 

I've seen a few affiliates through TPFR, like the Saturday Orvis class (Thanks again Dan) and the Family and Youth Casting Call. Are there any programs out there which could handle the raucous nature of 11-14 year old? 

Can you think of any issues that I may come across (permits and the like)? 

Thanks for any advice,

Molly

**I wrote this during a 10 minute break, please excuse the terrible writing/grammar/punctuation etc.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 6th Grade Science Curriculum

I've done some work with "fishing in schools" with Katie Cole. It's a great program. http://www.fishinginschools.org/default.html

I helped "train the trainer" a couple years ago. We were teaching teachers and PE teachers how to fly fish so they could instruct the students. It was a two day course. I'm sure she'd be happy to talk to you/share resources or best practices.

Hope this helps. Also if you're looking for volunteers to help with your work let me know, I used to teach middle school and obviously love to fish so PM me if theres any way I can help.

Thanks,

David


On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:54:41 PM UTC-4, Molly Hokkanen wrote:

Carl, this looks awesome! An easy grant proposal and BOOM! New class pet/ educational tool. 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Carl Smolka <carl....@verizon.net> wrote:

Molly,

Trout in the classroom might be an idea to consider. I think there are around 70 schools in MD currently engaged. Jim Greene (jgr...@waterwisp.com) is the expert.

Carl

Mobile via Verizon

 

On May 28, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Molly Hokkanen <molly.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sending out a feeler message for ideas about teaching 6th graders how to fish. 

Next year, I'll teach an estimated 60, 6th graders. Every year we do something called Chesapeake Week, where we take a week or two of intensive study to focus on our watershed. This year was my first year at the school and I kind of ran with the established program. Next year I would really like to improve upon the curriculum and add in a few more perspectives. I'm also in charge of the new Middle School outdoor rec program (~20 person limit). We've already teamed up with Calleva and Earth Treks, and I think adding one more element, for before the weather turns foul would be nice. 

I've seen a few affiliates through TPFR, like the Saturday Orvis class (Thanks again Dan) and the Family and Youth Casting Call. Are there any programs out there which could handle the raucous nature of 11-14 year old? 

Can you think of any issues that I may come across (permits and the like)? 

Thanks for any advice,

Molly

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Tidal Basin anyone?

       I have the afternoon off on Thursday and plan to fish the Tidal Basin starting around 2 pm until dark.  I don't know about anyone else but I've ben skunked more times that I want to admit here but I can't seem to give up on the place.  I know people catch fish all the time here and I consider it a personal challenge to catch some large size fish here.  It also doesn't hurt just how close it is for me to fish it (approximately 5 metro stops on the same metro line I normally use).  I've spoken to multiple people in the group and everyone of course says the same suggestions (follow the wall, incoming and outgoing tides, both cast along the wall and out into the basin, etc..), I just need to make it work for me.

       I plan on bringing my 7 wt. with clousers, woolly buggers, shad darts, and other baitfish patterns and my 5 wt. with floating line for possible top water action.  I have not decided whether to use my floating line or my sinking (depth charge) line on the 7 wt. as I know the debt charge is over kill but I want to make sure my flies are getting to the bottom where it seems like most people are catching fish currently.  I don't know how deep the water gets but I'm guessing 20 feet deep towards the center.

       If anyone is interested in joining me, please feel free to contact me or just look for me on the water. I'll be the guy cursing at the fly stuck in the trees. 

Aaron

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Re: [CudaMailTagged] Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Indian River Inlet

Marek-

Let me know when you are there.  My family will be in town (rehoboth) June 6 thru June 14.   I fish all over the area and never have had any luck at IRI.  It looks like the last picture is from the south side along the inlet to the marine.   38.605572, -75.077534  google maps coordinates.

Where were you fishing, north or south side?
If you happen to be down in June let me know and maybe we can connect.

John

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:43:04 AM UTC-4, Marek wrote:

Apparently there is also great wade fishing at Henlopen state Park for flounder. I'll be back out at the end of June and post my results.

 

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Nice! 

 

We used to have an excellent grey trout fishery in the bay....I miss them :/

 

And Jeff, they do get pretty big, just are nowhere near as common as they used to be. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Bethy's first NSH -- I lost the biggest fish of my life and wet my pants

She was fishing a spin rod -- mostly little mepps spinners and stuff.  That one was a yellow one, but they'll take a lot of stuff it seems like if you keep putting it in front of them and you find ones that are feeding.  She only will fish the ones with a gold blade -- just her preference.  

Gene

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:16:45 PM UTC-4, Matthew Longley wrote:

awesome NSH!  I gotta ask, what fly did it take?

On Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:25:15 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

Hey!  Had a stellar day fishing off the *allegedly* dirty Potomac today.  I was using a TFO finesse 389 and Beth had a little UL spin combo.  She's cleaning the SH as we speak in our bathtub -- a good 25" fish according to the top of our cooler.  Man that guy is slimy....

 

I managed to hook the biggest fish I've ever hooked on a fly rod, what I'd estimate to be about a 10-12 pound carp.  He ran out all my line into the backing and went way the heck downstream, pulling my kayak.  After a while he went straight for a nasty snag under a concrete pillar.  Then *boom, line when limp.   I'm so depressed it's unbelievable.  Defeated.  I keep going over the fight in my head and questioning why I didn't try to lead him a different way, etc.  I even jumped out of the kayak to get a better position, but nada -- gone. 

 

Okay -- I'm going to get myself together, because we had a great day and I'm so lucky to have married a woman who fishes it seems pointless to get too upset about it ;). 

 

Sight casting to carp and snakeheads is some of the most fun, challenging fishing I've done with the fly rod.  I needed a weighted fly to get down to the carp, but a weighted fly causes the "splash" issue often...and I definitelyt spooked a few (dozen). The only way I found to hook one of these carp was to cast into the future of the predicted path and let it sink.  Then, hope they keep moving in the right direction and twitch it a bit.  Seeing one of those huge suckers make the "fish face" and suck in the fly is like a rock concert man!  So now I know when I see someone catch a carp on a fly rod, it probably wasn't quite how I pictured it -- much of it is clairvoyance and just being lucky.  For me anyway. 

 

Going to ditch the finesse for the 9' 8-weight tomorrow.  

 

Gene

 

 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 6th Grade Science Curriculum

Carl, this looks awesome! An easy grant proposal and BOOM! New class pet/ educational tool. 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Carl Smolka <carl.smolka@verizon.net> wrote:

Molly,

Trout in the classroom might be an idea to consider. I think there are around 70 schools in MD currently engaged. Jim Greene (jgreene@waterwisp.com) is the expert.

Carl

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On May 28, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Molly Hokkanen <molly.hokkanen@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sending out a feeler message for ideas about teaching 6th graders how to fish. 

Next year, I'll teach an estimated 60, 6th graders. Every year we do something called Chesapeake Week, where we take a week or two of intensive study to focus on our watershed. This year was my first year at the school and I kind of ran with the established program. Next year I would really like to improve upon the curriculum and add in a few more perspectives. I'm also in charge of the new Middle School outdoor rec program (~20 person limit). We've already teamed up with Calleva and Earth Treks, and I think adding one more element, for before the weather turns foul would be nice. 

I've seen a few affiliates through TPFR, like the Saturday Orvis class (Thanks again Dan) and the Family and Youth Casting Call. Are there any programs out there which could handle the raucous nature of 11-14 year old? 

Can you think of any issues that I may come across (permits and the like)? 

Thanks for any advice,

Molly

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Bethy's first NSH -- I lost the biggest fish of my life and wet my pants

awesome NSH!  I gotta ask, what fly did it take?

On Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:25:15 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

Hey!  Had a stellar day fishing off the *allegedly* dirty Potomac today.  I was using a TFO finesse 389 and Beth had a little UL spin combo.  She's cleaning the SH as we speak in our bathtub -- a good 25" fish according to the top of our cooler.  Man that guy is slimy....

 

I managed to hook the biggest fish I've ever hooked on a fly rod, what I'd estimate to be about a 10-12 pound carp.  He ran out all my line into the backing and went way the heck downstream, pulling my kayak.  After a while he went straight for a nasty snag under a concrete pillar.  Then *boom, line when limp.   I'm so depressed it's unbelievable.  Defeated.  I keep going over the fight in my head and questioning why I didn't try to lead him a different way, etc.  I even jumped out of the kayak to get a better position, but nada -- gone. 

 

Okay -- I'm going to get myself together, because we had a great day and I'm so lucky to have married a woman who fishes it seems pointless to get too upset about it ;). 

 

Sight casting to carp and snakeheads is some of the most fun, challenging fishing I've done with the fly rod.  I needed a weighted fly to get down to the carp, but a weighted fly causes the "splash" issue often...and I definitelyt spooked a few (dozen). The only way I found to hook one of these carp was to cast into the future of the predicted path and let it sink.  Then, hope they keep moving in the right direction and twitch it a bit.  Seeing one of those huge suckers make the "fish face" and suck in the fly is like a rock concert man!  So now I know when I see someone catch a carp on a fly rod, it probably wasn't quite how I pictured it -- much of it is clairvoyance and just being lucky.  For me anyway. 

 

Going to ditch the finesse for the 9' 8-weight tomorrow.  

 

Gene

 

 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 6th Grade Science Curriculum

Molly,

Trout in the classroom might be an idea to consider. I think there are around 70 schools in MD currently engaged. Jim Greene (jgreene@waterwisp.com) is the expert.

Carl

Mobile via Verizon

 

On May 28, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Molly Hokkanen <molly.hokkanen@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sending out a feeler message for ideas about teaching 6th graders how to fish. 

Next year, I'll teach an estimated 60, 6th graders. Every year we do something called Chesapeake Week, where we take a week or two of intensive study to focus on our watershed. This year was my first year at the school and I kind of ran with the established program. Next year I would really like to improve upon the curriculum and add in a few more perspectives. I'm also in charge of the new Middle School outdoor rec program (~20 person limit). We've already teamed up with Calleva and Earth Treks, and I think adding one more element, for before the weather turns foul would be nice. 

I've seen a few affiliates through TPFR, like the Saturday Orvis class (Thanks again Dan) and the Family and Youth Casting Call. Are there any programs out there which could handle the raucous nature of 11-14 year old? 

Can you think of any issues that I may come across (permits and the like)? 

Thanks for any advice,

Molly

**I wrote this during a 10 minute break, please excuse the terrible writing/grammar/punctuation etc.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 6th Grade Science Curriculum

Thanks Dalton!  We do take the kids to the Philip Merrill CBF site in Annapolis. We did some seine netting (kids loved it), I never thought to ask them about a more individual approach. I'll look into the Potomac River Program as well. The school I teach at is in Potomac MD, and is incredibly close to the river. It seems too convenient to waste. They read The Red Kayak, so we try and keep it relevant to the reading as well. 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Dalton Terrell <daltonbterrell@gmail.com> wrote:

Molly,

Have you gotten in touch with the Chesapeake Bay Foundation? I recently met a fellow on a stream that works for CBF and leads some trips like this in PA for middle school field trips. It looks like they run similar trips in the Potomac and Anacostia close by, see more details and contact here. The descriptions don't mention fishing, but I'm pretty sure the guy I met said the kids do fish on some trips. 

Dalton

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 6th Grade Science Curriculum

Molly,

Have you gotten in touch with the Chesapeake Bay Foundation? I recently met a fellow on a stream that works for CBF and leads some trips like this in PA for middle school field trips. It looks like they run similar trips in the Potomac and Anacostia close by, see more details and contact here. The descriptions don't mention fishing, but I'm pretty sure the guy I met said the kids do fish on some trips. 

Dalton

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 6th Grade Science Curriculum

I'm sending out a feeler message for ideas about teaching 6th graders how to fish. 

Next year, I'll teach an estimated 60, 6th graders. Every year we do something called Chesapeake Week, where we take a week or two of intensive study to focus on our watershed. This year was my first year at the school and I kind of ran with the established program. Next year I would really like to improve upon the curriculum and add in a few more perspectives. I'm also in charge of the new Middle School outdoor rec program (~20 person limit). We've already teamed up with Calleva and Earth Treks, and I think adding one more element, for before the weather turns foul would be nice. 

I've seen a few affiliates through TPFR, like the Saturday Orvis class (Thanks again Dan) and the Family and Youth Casting Call. Are there any programs out there which could handle the raucous nature of 11-14 year old? 

Can you think of any issues that I may come across (permits and the like)? 

Thanks for any advice,

Molly

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac camping

Thank you Horace that's really good information

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} My new bass killers!

Thanks Rich. I was in the state park in Kanes creek.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} My new bass killers!

Aden,

Just wanted to clarify something for the guys here on the board – Mason Neck is large… there are a bunch of creeks, but there is also the federal wildlife refuge – fishing on or from the refuge is prohibited, but elsewhere outside of the refuge is fine:

Just making sure everyone knows the regulations before you head out.

R

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Hey all,

Seeing as I am off work for a while now, I have had lots of time to play with flies, tie new patterns and fish almost everyday. I wanted to share my new flies.

Some things I read over and over and hear on tv shows is that bigger flies/lures catch bigger fish. I grew up next door to Jimmy Houston in Oklahoma and did lots of bass fishing. With those roots I have tried to tie a pattern that mimics my favorite lures. I am still working on the plastic worm but I feel I have modified my wooly bugger to imitate a tube that spin casters use.

I tied these flies on a long size 6         (though I plan to go bigger) with rubber legs, craft fur and lead eyes. They are about 3 inches long but have a thick body. They fish deep and swim well.

I tried them out at mason neck this weekend and every bass I caught was at least 3 pounds. I hope the small mouth like them too.

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Re: [CudaMailTagged] Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Indian River Inlet

Henlopen is a lot of fun -- though I've only caught a little bluefish there the one time I fished it.  You can wade along the pier for quite a long way when tide is lower.  I love that park for other reasons too, like the excellent birds there.  Ruddy Turnstones!  There's a big lighthouse rock pile out there too.  

Gene

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:43:04 AM UTC-4, Marek wrote:

Apparently there is also great wade fishing at Henlopen state Park for flounder. I'll be back out at the end of June and post my results.

 

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Nice! 

 

We used to have an excellent grey trout fishery in the bay....I miss them :/

 

And Jeff, they do get pretty big, just are nowhere near as common as they used to be. 

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