Saturday, December 29, 2012

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Has anyone done well at Four Mile Run recently?

Alright, I apologize for putting it in those terms. I'm sure rob and everyone on here is good people. Wish you had participated in the last thread rather than skipping on to promoting the stream again.

Honestly it's disappointing going to big hunting now and seeing someone at every hole, seeing other fisherman wade right through where others are casting, and having noticed the population dip considerably whether through drought and heat or the enormous increase in pressure and people carelessly wading through spawning grounds. Gunpowder has also taken a horrible hit, but at least it's a decent sized stream and doesn't shrink to hardly anything during the summer. 

If we start promoting specific 'public' small streams that rely on natural reproduction near dc, say in SNP, we can have 'em cleaned out by end of 2013... haven't checked up on whether the brookie spawn is complete, but there might even be a few redds left to trample if the group can pick a stream, start a thread and all head out this week. Only issue will be parking... 

Every tiny brook trout stream, hidden lake or 'secret' access point is already public.  That said, there is a distinct difference between what is public and actively promoting by name small wild trout streams in a metro area of 5 million+ to list that i've heard is pushing close to a thousand now, especially when i doubt any of us can name half of the members.  No idea if some people like to 'just take a few home' regardless of regulations, if they're the folding chair & cooler type that line up and trash the banks along hawksbill, or the type that has no problem jumpin in up top an occupied run. I'd guess 90% aren't, but doesn't take many to destroy a mile and half of skinny water.

So yeah.. Rob, again sorry for saying it in a dick way.  Less worried about Hunting Creek, which has already taken a big hit, than what the next wild trout stream will be.  

Brendan 


On Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:41:41 AM UTC-5, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:
Brendan,
 
You have made your thoughts and opinions very clear on this in the past.  Some agree with you, some don't.  Taking personal shots at individual members here or the group at large, however, will not be tolerated.  I believe you owe Rob and the rest who don't share your opinion an apology, preferably prior to posting anything further.  While I can appreciate your desire to "protect" public resources like Big Hunting Creek from the public, these are in fact, public resources and exist for the purpose of recreational use.  Additionally, while it is certainly true that fragile resources like small, wild trout streams can be easily loved to death, they can also just as easily be sheltered into extinction.
 
Dan Davala

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Brendan <brenda...@gmail.com> wrote:
groupon 'guides' aside,  recommend topo maps and google... 

looks for springs, outflows and tailwaters when it starts getting cold. 

and for the clowns that still haven't gotten it.... stop promoting small wild trout streams to massive listservs. 



On Friday, December 28, 2012 4:42:39 PM UTC-5, HeaveToo wrote:
How are you guys accessing 4MR near the water input?

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