There was a thread a little while back where Miles talked about his experience starting out, and the feeling that those that came before him were pulling the ladder up behind them. �I very much look forward to being able to list out half of the accomplishments that you do. �Part of getting to the point of being able to look at a map or hike through the woods and recognize fishy water is getting some experience in better known areas.
I can tell you that I look at a loaded trout stream and have no idea where to start, where fish are holding, or what parts of the water are dead ends. �I've been tying flies on and off since I was 11, but I never really had anyone to take me fishing. �I know that I need to 'pay my dues' with fishless hours standing in the water, but it is invaluable to at least have the knowledge that others have had success in an area before. �You can call it a handout if you want, but I prefer to think of it as highlighting my own error. �If I spend 12 hours walking miles alongside a stream that I know from others is loaded with trout that love small nymphs, and I don't catch anything, then I know I need to change tactics (see my New Mexico trip report). �While I've very much enjoyed the people I have met through this club, that secondhand experience has certainly been my most practical and useful takeaway from here.
If you want to start an honest conversation about conservation, and perhaps even about setting some guidelines about spot sharing on the forum, I have no problem with that. �But you went about it the wrong way.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Brendan <brendanlilly@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem is we're in an area with a very small number of decent fisheries, much less ones with reproducing populations, so promoting certain ones to a board of several hundred fishermen is irresponsible if not b/c of some fisherman's code, then purely for conservation purposes. Especially when the place mentioned has only about 1.5 miles of very skinny water that's already over-pressured.�While I appreciate the slight in your closing sentence, having fished, hiked, explored and photographed this area for 20 years, i'm pretty sure i could out almost everyone's favorite secret spots on public lands and most private lands within 3 hours of dc. And so could several others on this board...which is why if we want an exchange of information, we should respect everyone's best interest and the conservation of wild trout. �I've researched my way to almost a dozen 'secret' streams, springs and sections that aren't in any guidebook, forum or blog, from Harrisburg to harrisonburg and out to the potomac highlands, all found through books, maps, hikes, digging through environmental studies, getting lost on poorly marked forest roads and dozens of fishless adventures. In spite of the cost of gas, still recommend that method over handouts and we should be promoting those resources such as USGS,�DGIF & DNR sites, eastern brook trout venture, biology reports, google maps, blogs,, to people interested in getting into the sport. If you make some friends along the way that you trade a spot or two with in exchange for somewhere else, that's great... but a massive and public forum is not the place to promote small streams. Discuss heavily stocked put and take streams -- I highly encourage posts and promotions of places like passage creek or accotink both of which are great places to learn and catch decent sized trout for the first time.�But, with the exception of environmental and regulatory threats of which there are many to this stream and others in the area, can we please not discuss/promote small bodies of water that rely heavily on natural reproduction??? �
On Monday, November 26, 2012 6:57:19 AM UTC-5, Matthew Longley wrote:I follow another (non-local) FF forum where no one shares ANY location information (seriously one guy uses photoshop to blur the background of pictures), but TPFR is pretty open about sharing information about commonly fished waters and techniques in the area, and I think the community is better off for it. �Now if you hike 10 miles into some gorgeous hole with more trout than water and don't want if revealed, that's one thing, but I think Big Hunting Creek falls into the public knowledge trust at this point. �If that's your secret fishing spot, well you haven't been trying hard enough.On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:Okay, I see. �I actually punched in "hotspotting" into the search engine (not knowing what it really meant) and found that one really long, detailed thread about this subject that happened before I was a member here. �It looks like there are opinions across the spectrum, and I respect that. �I just wanted to make sure that if I found something that worked well and chose to share it, that it was totally fine by forum rules. �It looks like it is -- so I'm good to go. �On the more dry, sarcastic side that I tend to favor, it would be fun if trip reports read like this:Step 1 - Enter the stream at the outfall and walk 14 1/2 steps toward the spillway. �Step 2 - Overhead cast #4 black bead woolly bugger into the seam and strip in line as fly feeds toward you.Step 3 - After 8 seconds of drift, set the hook and a bass will be on it.�Lol. �Kinda like an instruction manual to The Legend of Zelda or something. �Gene
On Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:11:33 PM UTC-5, John wrote:It's an open forum. �My opinion is If you have a place �and want to keep it private, you can. If you want to share a place, tip etc that's fine too.I try and share pretty much everything.John
Sent from my iPhoneOkay, so don't post specific locations and what flies we've used that were successful? �Gosh, I pretty much tell everyone everything since I'm new and don't really have a handle on all of this yet. �Is this a board/club rule, or just an individual preference? �Gene--
On Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:27:41 PM UTC-5, Vietfisher wrote:Actually,�hot spotting and specific locations has led the largest fish I have ever caught on the fly!�
Please keep it up!
Sent from my iPadCan we please stop posting crap like this... ???--fine with general areas, techniques, large bodies of water, whatever... but listing specific streams is bs.�
On Monday, October 15, 2012 2:40:00 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:Big hunting creek is a gem in winter.�
Sent from my iPodGunpowder, North Branch of the Potomac, and the Savage are all a bit closer than the Jackson.�--
On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:32:30 PM UTC-4, Danny Barrett wrote:What tailwaters are around DC other then the Jackson ?
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Dalton Terrell <daltonb...@gmail.com> wrote:
Matthew and others,I have fished December through February in the park the past couple years. It has been said here before that the after the spawn is over, the eggs still need time to develop in the redds and that we shouldn't wade the streams until after new years. With this in mind, Trent and I have both hit the park in December and early January without waders, only rock hopping or fishing the pools available from the bank. Fishing can be OK this time of year, but don't expect fish to come up for dries. Think about throwing streamers in bigger holes or nymphs in the smaller ones.�WIth this being said, I would recommend taking your dad to one of the tailwaters instead, they won't be quite as scenic or wild but the fishing should be much better than Shenandoah National Park; if you can postpone to April I would definitely recommend SNP. I also had my dad out in Shenandoah a few weeks ago, water was super low and I certainly wished I would've picked somewhere different.Dalton--
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