I read a "Vegan fishing" article recently where this guy was saying that he doesn't understand why people need to hook and play a fish to get enjoyment out of the sport of fishing. He then went on to say "why not just feed the fish you see at the stream?" You could then say "Man, I just fed a 3-pound rainbow" vs. "I caught a 3-pound rainbow." I guess he was using bread or something.
Some fly fishermen aren't too far from this sentiment on the spectrum between Vegan and T-Nugent. I think it's worth considering how very arbitrary the thought process can get when discussing stuff like this.
For the record -- when someone catches more fish than I do, that's when I start inspecting his/her tackle and technique to determine whether he/she is "really fishing" or not. If Beth catches more brook trout in the SNP than I do, it's because she cheats...or because I was "busy chasing a lizard" or something stupid like that.
Gene
On Saturday, September 13, 2014 4:21:40 PM UTC-4, Yambag Nelson wrote:
On Saturday, September 13, 2014 4:21:40 PM UTC-4, Yambag Nelson wrote:
Its controversial partly because you would typically "pin" the bead a couple inches above the hook. So if the fish eats the bead, there is a good chance that the fish will be hooked somewhere outside of the mouth.Other than that, many people (apparently not all) struggle to see a bead as a fly. When combined with the fact that it is usually used in conjunction with a chuck and duck casting technique, you can see why many flyfisherman don't consider bead fishing actually flyfishing. Some people don't care, others do. My uncle used to fish salted minnows on an orvis split bamboo fly rod that is worth a couple grand today. Similar thing.
On Saturday, September 13, 2014 3:18:21 PM UTC-4, Brendan wrote:never even heard about this bead fishing technique... don't really understand why it's that controversial. not terribly impressed by the gamesmanship of it, but same with fishing stocked streams using pink flashy flies - which i occasionally do. I also cast a spin rod w/ my dad, girlfriend or friends kids, which isn't quite the same challenge as twerkin a clouser but there's still something amazing about seeing a bass smash a rapala.... in terms of fishing egg patterns, fished them occasionally going after coastal cutts/steelhead out west and never noticed anymore of a problem w/ unhooking than nymph fishing. only holy grail i have is protecting native/wild fish from herds/hotspotting and poaching.... i don't see the point in judging purity of legal approaches.
On Friday, September 12, 2014 11:35:12 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:Actually I'm the guy getting drenched outside -- as a crofter, I wasn't accepted into the upper fly fishing circles and I couldn't afford an umbrella that would cover my back.Gene
On Friday, September 12, 2014 10:52:40 AM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:Gene - is that a portrait of you?--ScottOn Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:47 AM, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:Well, in any case -- we certainly wouldn't want to state the regulations and just go with that. That would be stupid!--Instead, I think we should continue bashing what might be legal fishing methods (and according to Rob, if anything, potentially beneficial) based upon our feelings.Because with fly fishing! -- following the law just isn't good enough. It's an elite brotherhood! This book is writing itself!
On Friday, September 12, 2014 10:03:51 AM UTC-4, Uncle Keith wrote:Actually, any presentation - other than a presentation that incorporates a float - would appear to be an attempt at lining/flossing/lifting/snagging... so, one can either opt for fishing with an indicator, or skip the fly gear and fish with a float fishing set up to avoid the appearance of attempting to snag fish. Keep in mind that the lifting/flossing/lining/snaggi
ng contingent use fly rods & reels for their "style of fishing". They fish during low-flow conditions, in fast water, where the fish tend to aggregate. (I chalk up this Poor Behavior to an Impulse Control Personality Deficiency.)
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