Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Leader for clouser minnows

A #2 leaded clouser is tough on a 5/6 weight fly line, in areas very near the big river (with wind being common) no matter what you do.  I'd chop down to a 5-6' leader of heavy mono like the ^^ guy said.  Try a belgian cast and/or lobbing to avoid overhead casting altogether.  

I find that I don't catch fewer fish on smaller streamer patterns, so I mostly toss #6-12s.  If you like the bigger stuff, you might consider a 7-8 weight fly line to carry those suckers a bit better.  

Gene

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:44:51 PM UTC-5, Scott S wrote:

You'll definitely be better off with a shorter and thicker leader for flies like Clousers. I suggest just using a section of straight (2-3 feet) 18-20 lb mono to something smaller like 10-12 lb (also like 2-3 feet). Overall, my leader is usually 6-9 feet when fishing Clousers around here. I just use a 20-lb "butt" section tied directly a 12-lb "tippet" section, though I think it's recommended to use something in between (like a short section of 16-lb) as knots work best with materials that are of similar diameter. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable on that subject could weigh in?

What size rod are you using? The above is my setup for an 8-weight. It would probably be the same for a 6- or 7-weight, but I don't think it would work so well for anything lighter than that.

Not that it will impact your casting, but one thing that is highly recommended when fishing minnow-like patterns such as the Clouser is to use a loop knot to attach your fly to the tippet. Something like a Non-slip Mono loop works well. This gives the fly a little more movement when it's in the water. 

--Scott

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Tyler Lucas <tylerl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

What is the preferred leader for a #2 clouser minnow?  The reason I am asking is because I used a heavy fly for the first time today ( I am a beginner ) and I encounterd a "dog hitting the end of a leash" effect, and it was giving me alot of trouble with my casts.  I was wondering if you are supposed to use a shorter, or heavier leader in order to prevent that from happening.  I altered my cast to a more "rolling" motion as opposed to just keeping my rod straight, but it didn't really help me. 

I apologize if I sound like I have no idea what I am talking about, honestly I really don't. 

Any way, any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Tyler Lucas

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