Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Illegal to wade Gravelly Point

Sure thing Eric -- I don't think anyone is denying that Remick was breaking a rule being there at 2:30 in the morning....but the citation was for "entering the Potomac" not "trespassing".  If he was ticketed just for being there after hours, we wouldn't have much to discuss here...but it seems that the real topic is the legality of entering the water to wade fish.  

When the Wilson Bridge pedestrian/cyclist trail was installed the NPS attempted to also apply "hours" to the use of the trail since they considered it a "park".  Cyclists obviously viewed it as a transportation route and did NOT like this designation.  As a result, NPS chose not to apply "hours" to the use of the trail.  I'm sure something like this exemption could be made for our fishing spots.  

Paul - that was my thought too, especially since it is listed on the heading "swimming".    

Gene

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:02:25 AM UTC-4, Eric Y. wrote:

Not to rain on your parade, but there is a white-on-brown park service sign at the entrance that notes the park hours as you enter the park.

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:42:35 AM UTC-4, FlyTimesDC wrote:

I really appreciate all the support on this guys. It's easy to keep a positive attitude with the support of this group and knowing that we are all in this struggle to open navigable waterways for public access. Like you all, I'm hopeful that we can make some substantial change here as this is a much larger issue than a simple citation.  As urban anglers - we are essentially handcuffed or confined to a finite amount of places to fish that are A) safe and B) consistently productive. We all share a special connection to the water - whether it be for relaxation, personal pleasure, or escape - and to have no legal access (or extremely limited access) to our Nation's River is sad. I'll admit, 2:30 in the morning is a strange hour to be fishing...but over the previous three nights, the bite on the outgoing tide was incredible. Nothing but giant carp, gar, and blue cats, Every bite took me deep into my backing. Not a single small fish. Just one of those streaks that you never want to end. While I'm not looking forward to fighting this citation (Dan, you're probably right, I don't really have an argument against trespassing except there being no posted signs or warnings about park closure & Gene - you are the man for spearheading the "It could have been you fund") - I do look forward to having the discussion and joining forces with other like-minded organizations to reopen our Nation's River. Looking forward to a great next beer tie.

Thanks,

Remick

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:04:45 AM UTC-4, Stuart M wrote:

My apartment overlooks Roaches Run and virtually every day, including yesterday, I see one or more people wading and fishing in there. Also kayakers who, presumably, have to get their feet wet (wade) when they launch.

 

Stuart

 

In a message dated 6/4/2013 5:55:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, doubl...@gmail.com writes:

Several days ago I emailed NPS and they just now responded to me.  I read it and thanked him for his response -- 

Contrasting with what Rich was told, this guy told me that Roaches Run is managed no differently than Gravelly Point and that it is equally illegal to wade there as well.  

Just thought I'd toss this out there in case anyone was still fishing RRWR -- I don't want to see anyone else getting ticketed.  

Hopefully we can do some "convincing" with the higher-ups and secure these spots so there isn't so much confusion about what the law is.  

Gene

On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:26:51 AM UTC-4, HeaveToo wrote:

Starting a petition is an excellent idea but I would suggest having an electronic petition.  Friends of the Chesapeake Bay did this in the past and it enables us to get the issue out to a larger group of people and get more attention to the issue.

Virginia outdoors men and women are environmental and conservation minded.  A lot of the money from our licenses goes towards conservation.  You also will see a large majority of fly fishermen practicing catch and release and safe fish handing methods.  All of these factors should put good light on us as a group.

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