Wednesday, October 31, 2018

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: New in town

Righteous fish porn, Vo.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Salmon River Trip

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On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Terry C <flycstrva56@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm heading up to the SR Thursday morning for the weekend for a little steelheading.  Anyone else going to be up there.  I'll post report when I get back.  As usual my luck everytime I go the SR water levels gets bumped up due to lots of rain. Oh well make the best of it. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} SNP Report

The park had planned to shock that section of the Rose last year to catch and kill the browns. Looks like they need to do it again, they're bad news for the brookies.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Salmon River Trip

I'm heading up to the SR Thursday morning for the weekend for a little steelheading.  Anyone else going to be up there.  I'll post report when I get back.  As usual my luck everytime I go the SR water levels gets bumped up due to lots of rain. Oh well make the best of it. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing in the winter

There are several opportunities for fly fishing in the winter around DC. Don't let the cooler weather get you down. Firstly, all of Maryland's major trout streams have been stocked. There are fishing opportunities as close as 30 min. outside of DC, and at least 5 stocked trout streams within an hour of DC on the Maryland side including Middle Patuxent, Little Patuxent (go to Savage Mill and walk down to the confluence and fish up and downstream on both rivers), Daniels area on the Patapsco in Ellicott City (about 45 min north of the city), the Gunpowder river (1 hr, 10 min north of the city, well-stocked with rainbow, but a nice population of small wild brown trout that rise to midges all winter long because its a tailwater - its also stunningly gorgeous and empty in the winter). The Potomac smallmouth fishery is year-long and now finally the river levels will steady up and drop as the weather cools concentrating them around warm water outlets (check out the Pepco plant in Dickerson, MD). For smallies I'd use a 6wt and intermediate or sinking line and clousers or even large #8 - 10 nymphs under an indicator.

Though many of the Chesapeake guides are already booked, between now and mid-January there should be an excellent striper bite. You could look for an available weekday and take a buddy to split the costs. The advantage is you'll have a guide to teach you since you're a beginner. And some  of the best striper fishing comes on cool to cold overcast days (as long as there is no wind).

I'm sure other members can speak better to VA side but also take a look at the VA stocking schedule to see if Passage Creek (about 45 min from city) is fishing.

If you have a car, winter is a good time to get out and explore! For example, if you're willing to drive up to 2 hours that would also get you to the lower Pennsylvania spring creeks which fish well all year because they hold a steady temp and attract a lot of fly anglers who you can chat up (Yellow Breeches, Spring Creek, etc.). Check out TCO for those.

So start by getting a couple of good guide books on VA, MD, and central PA and do your homework. Follow the stocking schedules. Make sure you've got trout gear and bass gear, and call the local fly shops like Beaver Creek, TCO, and Great Feathers.

good luck!


On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 9:56:45 PM UTC-4, jawilli...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been living in DC for about 5 years, but I've only been fly fishing since June, and I'm definitely hooked. Really bummed that the warmer season is coming to a close, but was wondering if there are places around here to still fish through the colder months?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Happy Halloween!!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: New in town

Those pa creeks are a joke. If you are used to fishing the op you will be very dissapointed. Pa stocks a ridiculous number of fish and they can really stack up so you can rack up some serious numbers. Most guys are chucking and ducking.

Ny has some better options for sure but the wild winter fish on the op are special.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing in the winter

Yeah if you are desperate to get out and don't feel like traveling a couple hours for what will probabaly be mediocre fishing, four mile run is an option as the water stays warm. In addition to the spring creeks ect you can always go up to New York and fish for steelhead. Not my favorite time to fish for them unless there is a warm spel but you can catch fish and conditions are less crowded.

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Tuesday, October 30, 2018

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: New in town

Brain, 
           Two things 
1st. In my opinion Rob understated  Salmon & Steelhead  runs on the Great Lakes. It's Not all combat fishing when comes to the Salmon. It can get crowded but if you willing to hike out a way from the access points the crowds will thin out bit and/or go during the week instead of weekend. 
        The Steelhead runs don't get as crowded as Salmon runs.
And these fish are Steelhead directly descended of West Coast fish. The state of Pennsylvania still obtains steelhead eggs from hatcheries in Washington State for their stocking program. Fresh run steelhead put up awesome fights when hooked , in the tributary of the Great Lakes
   Also there are Lake Run Brown Trout. And native  Atlantic Salmon are making a slow but steady come back in some tributaries of the Great Lakes . Including the Salmon River in New York which was named for its runs of Atlantic Salmon . Atlantic Salmon weighting up to 20 lbs have been caught in the Salmon River in the past several years. I've attached  pic, from  several ago.
It was the first week in November. 

2nd. A great way too get know some people in TPFR and learn about local waters. Is to attend a Beertie.This is a once-a-month event fly tying and social event held at Whitlow's on Wilson in Clarendon Virginia.
Even if you don't tye, just show up grab a beer and a burger and start chatting with people. Beerties held  the 2nd Monday.
The next one is Monday November 12th Veterans Day


Vladimir ( Vo ) 

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 9:07 AM <smith.brian1989@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the info, Rob! Rabbit lake was one of my favorite spots for the trifecta of a beautiful hike, good fishing, and berry picking on the way out! I also grew to tolerate combat fishing ship creek on my lunch break during the king and silver runs.

It sounds like Jeff would be a great place to start. I've never fished a sinking line before so a guide that will both help get me situated with a few local spots as well as help get me started with a new fishing method would be great. 

It seems like with PA, VA, MD, etc., there are a lot of good streams so that is definitely promising. 

On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 8:44:21 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:

Hi Brian, 

I work out of Anchorage and Kenai a fair bit in the summer so I can definitely relate, a day hike up to rabbit lake or fishing the mouth of the kenai was always an option that I don't have here. A big trout here is a snack for a lot of the trout up in AK


I'm currently down in southern VA fishing for stripers off my wife's dock, I've caught a few fish in the low-mid 20s, but mostly sub 20in fish, I've also caught some speckled trout and bluefish, and foul hooked a shad on my spinning rod (use that to see if anything is around). I haven't had much luck fishing for stripers from shore up north with a fly rod, but from a boat I've had great luck. If you are new to stripers I'd suggest booking yourself a one day charter with a guide and asking lots of questions. Jeff Lewatowski (http://www.fishlews.com/) is who I've gone out with and its always been fun, he also guides trout fishing on the various streams in MD. I suggest Jeff as he is one of the few guides who is a fly fisherman, not just someone who will allow you to fly fish off their charter boat, and he'll supply rods and flies. 

as for gear to get I'd suggest investing in a sinking line or tip for your 8wt, some of the spots I've been told to fish for stripers like kent island narrows is deep and has strong currents, it'll also come in handy for shad. I've also found that chartruese and white deceivers and clousers work the best for stripers, and the bigger and fuller the body the better they take. I tied up a big ugly 5in C&W deceiver with UV2 super hair on a 3/0 hook and had it smashed constantly until I lost it to a decent sized bluefish at the dock.


As for shad I've fished for them right in georgetown at fletcher's cove, you will definitely need heavy shad darts and a sinking tip for those when they are running, I know a lot of people go down there to spey fish as well. Shad can be quite fun but aren't particularly acrobatic, imagine them as kinda like greyling in terms of fight. You'll also need a DC licence to fish fletcher's but its $16 annual and can be purchased online.

I've been fishing a few rivers in PA (spruce, spring, penns) and the Gunpowder just north of baltimore. The gunpowder is a great relaxing river, fish aren't large but are fun on lighter tackle. These guys may call me crazy but I've been scandi fishing caddis and streamers on my 3wt trout spey ( equal to ~5wt singlehand) the last few times I've been out there and have been doing well and covering a lot of water with little backcast. When the water was up real high I was hucking a 10ft t8 sink tip on a light skagit line and really getting a streamer down and that seemed to be the ticket when everyone else was having no luck on nymphs.

You also mentioned Rock Creek, it is actually illegal to fish rock creek except at lake needwood, at least that was what I was told by an officer one day while I was out microfishing off one of the bridges. However the outlet at needwood to the creek is open for fishing and is super productive for various species.

Another note I've heard some people fish the tidal basin, it'd be worth it just to go down and get a photo of a catch with the monuments in the background, don't know of the legality of it, perhaps someone here can chime in.



Rob



On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 6:45:01 PM UTC-4, smith.b...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey All,

Just wanted to introduce myself and apologize in advance for any dumb questions I ask regarding fishing in the area. I just moved from Alaska and am certainly missing the ability to fish on my lunch break through the summer. I have been reading about the stripers and shad, two species I have never fished for, so feel like I definitely have a lot to learn. Would love any tips about what flies to use, and which methods work best. I have a 2, 5 and 8-wt rod, as well as lots of flies typical for trout, dollies, and grayling, but nothing specifically for stripers.

I have been walking the dogs at Rock Creek, but haven't seen anything moving in the water there. Any good tips for a newbie to the area? Any gotchas I should know before getting a line wet?

Thanks and tight lines!

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Sunday, October 28, 2018

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: New in town

sorry I only fished rock creek in the MD, didn't know DC would have different regs, makes sense though as it transitions to a national park in DC, right?


If you are willing to go up into PA or NY you can get salmon runs that come out of the lakes, but from what I've been told the salmon fishing is combat fishing. They also have a fish they call a steelhead, and technically it is a steelhead, but the fight isn't anywhere near the same as the fish on the west coast, but they do get quite large.   

I fished ships creek once and never went again, I really liked symphony lake and crescent lake down near Moose Pass as well. So many great options. I alsways forget about the berries, I remember hiking skyline traverse one time when I brought my wife up, we packed in water and snacks and ended up just stuffing our faces with all the berries. That was my first experience with watermelon berries.                 

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 2:41:32 AM UTC-4, Brian Cohen wrote:
Hi Brian - Rob's email has tons of great info, but just wanted to clarify about Rock Creek.   In DC, you can fish all of Rock Creek from Porter Street down to the where it meets the Potomac.   There are some surprisingly decent spots in both the upper and lower stretch.   I've caught bass, catfish, stripers, creek chub, and tons of bluegill in the upper stretches, and in the lower stretches anything in the Potomac is likely to come into the Creek.  

I am not a particularly experienced or accomplished fly fisherman, but I really enjoy fishing Rock Creek - something about catching a nice fish on a surprisingly attractive  stretch of stream smack dab in the middle of the city makes it really special - and I'd be happy to go out with you sometime.  Just send me an email when spring rolls around.

You'll need a DC license, and - given CSOs - you should avoid fishing it within 48-72 hours of a heavy rain.  A four- or five-weight with a floating line works fine for Rock Creek.

BC

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:44 AM robert mills <robertm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Brian, 

I work out of Anchorage and Kenai a fair bit in the summer so I can definitely relate, a day hike up to rabbit lake or fishing the mouth of the kenai was always an option that I don't have here. A big trout here is a snack for a lot of the trout up in AK


I'm currently down in southern VA fishing for stripers off my wife's dock, I've caught a few fish in the low-mid 20s, but mostly sub 20in fish, I've also caught some speckled trout and bluefish, and foul hooked a shad on my spinning rod (use that to see if anything is around). I haven't had much luck fishing for stripers from shore up north with a fly rod, but from a boat I've had great luck. If you are new to stripers I'd suggest booking yourself a one day charter with a guide and asking lots of questions. Jeff Lewatowski (http://www.fishlews.com/) is who I've gone out with and its always been fun, he also guides trout fishing on the various streams in MD. I suggest Jeff as he is one of the few guides who is a fly fisherman, not just someone who will allow you to fly fish off their charter boat, and he'll supply rods and flies. 

as for gear to get I'd suggest investing in a sinking line or tip for your 8wt, some of the spots I've been told to fish for stripers like kent island narrows is deep and has strong currents, it'll also come in handy for shad. I've also found that chartruese and white deceivers and clousers work the best for stripers, and the bigger and fuller the body the better they take. I tied up a big ugly 5in C&W deceiver with UV2 super hair on a 3/0 hook and had it smashed constantly until I lost it to a decent sized bluefish at the dock.


As for shad I've fished for them right in georgetown at fletcher's cove, you will definitely need heavy shad darts and a sinking tip for those when they are running, I know a lot of people go down there to spey fish as well. Shad can be quite fun but aren't particularly acrobatic, imagine them as kinda like greyling in terms of fight. You'll also need a DC licence to fish fletcher's but its $16 annual and can be purchased online.

I've been fishing a few rivers in PA (spruce, spring, penns) and the Gunpowder just north of baltimore. The gunpowder is a great relaxing river, fish aren't large but are fun on lighter tackle. These guys may call me crazy but I've been scandi fishing caddis and streamers on my 3wt trout spey ( equal to ~5wt singlehand) the last few times I've been out there and have been doing well and covering a lot of water with little backcast. When the water was up real high I was hucking a 10ft t8 sink tip on a light skagit line and really getting a streamer down and that seemed to be the ticket when everyone else was having no luck on nymphs.

You also mentioned Rock Creek, it is actually illegal to fish rock creek except at lake needwood, at least that was what I was told by an officer one day while I was out microfishing off one of the bridges. However the outlet at needwood to the creek is open for fishing and is super productive for various species.

Another note I've heard some people fish the tidal basin, it'd be worth it just to go down and get a photo of a catch with the monuments in the background, don't know of the legality of it, perhaps someone here can chime in.



Rob



On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 6:45:01 PM UTC-4, smith.b...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey All,

Just wanted to introduce myself and apologize in advance for any dumb questions I ask regarding fishing in the area. I just moved from Alaska and am certainly missing the ability to fish on my lunch break through the summer. I have been reading about the stripers and shad, two species I have never fished for, so feel like I definitely have a lot to learn. Would love any tips about what flies to use, and which methods work best. I have a 2, 5 and 8-wt rod, as well as lots of flies typical for trout, dollies, and grayling, but nothing specifically for stripers.

I have been walking the dogs at Rock Creek, but haven't seen anything moving in the water there. Any good tips for a newbie to the area? Any gotchas I should know before getting a line wet?

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Saturday, October 27, 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Carl Smolka

With heavy heart I share this message from Al Warner about long time TPFR member Carl Smolka.

Carl had nearly perfect attendance at John Bilotta's Casting Church and spent many years as a volunteer for Walter Reed Project Healing Waters.

RIP, Carl.

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Subject: Carl Smolka


Good Morning,

 

This week we learned of the passing of our beloved Carl.  Cancer won, we lost. Carl was a recipient of the PHWFF Phil Johnson Exceptional Leadership Award.

 

Carl was our inspiration, our teacher, and a gift we will continue to receive.  He loved PHW, especially the Walter Reed and Ft. Meade programs.  He was a volunteer since the inception in 2005.  Sometimes words on paper, are merely that, words on paper.  In this case they have real meaning.  It is impossible to describe the void Carl leaves.  I know of many tears shed this week.  Carl wouldn't have wanted them, but he deserves them.

 

There have been many tributes paid to Carl in my email box this week. The best are from his students. Lee Barbee, one of Carl's students in the beauties of the vise, wrote:  "This is something incredibly hard for me to process. I've been at a loss for words since reading this email this morning.  The best I can say, is Carl was a hell of a man. He had a ton of heart. He will be greatly missed. I'm so sorry for everyone who knew Carl so well. Especially his family. May he Rest In Peace."

 

Beth Steinberger wrote: "The world lost another great one.... I am so very grateful for the time I had in knowing Carl, and all that he shared about Fly Fishing and life. There will be a huge hole that I doubt one person will ever fill again."

 

Carl was loved and respected and this week, God welcomed him home.  Can you imagine the trout he is catching?  Our deepest condolences to his family.

 

Carl will be honored in a service and viewing next Friday and Saturday.  From the family:

He was the best of all of us,

 

Al

 

 

 

 

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Friday, October 26, 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fishing Saturday

Any suggestions for fishing tomorrow in kayak or wading? Would back of tidal rivers or creeks work for small strippers? Or Kent narrows area?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tampa bay/Fort De Soto on the fly

So last night as I previously mentioned I went night fishing The dock lights in around St Pete Beach and St Petersburg. For reason I can guess many of the private boat docks of the very upscale waterfront homes have underwater colored lights. Most of these lights had literally dozens of very sizeable fish in the lights and shadow line. Most of these fish were Snook but as I found out there were redfish and mangrove snappers. We did see some good size specked trout but did not hook any. We also expected to find baby tarpon but did not see any.

The game was simply to throw a white fly into the light and hang on. The fish were on the fly immediately. Most of the fish caught were Snook but also hooked a good size redfish that took a while to land. Also caught a line mangrove snapper that fought very hard. Hooked some large fish that broke me off including the berry last fish I could not control and never saw but had on for some blistering runs before breaking my 30lb tippet.

It was great fun and if your in the Tampa area give Capt Dave Dant, (727) 744-9039, a call.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Yellow Perch

Anybody catch any yellow perch lately? I usually catch some big ones in the fall around bridges mixed in with slab crappie and schoolies. Haven't seen any this year.

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Thursday, October 25, 2018

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} New in town

Welcome to the area Brian. I moved down here in may after living in upstate new york and having the ability to slay steelhead and browns from december through may.. .. not to mention the salmon run. As you mentioned it will be a switch for sure but there are plenty of fishing opportunities around. Not sure about rock creek park but probably blue gill.

The 8wt will be perfect for the shad and stripers. Five will be good for the trout (obviously) around here. However, as you get more and more into fishing these creeks/ rivers you will see why it is commonplace to use lighter/shorter rods as some of the water is tight and fish on the smaller side, but still feisty.

Before I go into shad and stripers there are a few excellent resources you can use to learn more about the fishing in the area;
1) https://www.tu.org/blog-posts/voices-from-the-river-tu-internship-fuels-public-lands-appreciation - blog I wrote while interning at TU about local opportunities.
3) This Forum - a lot of threads have been started by guys like us to which a bunch of guys have subsequently responded. Combing through these posts/ previous topics is an easy way to learn a lot.
4) go to local fly shops and talk to the guys .. District angling and orvis are both in Arlington area. 


Some quick spots and species off the top of my head would be
- C&O Canal - Carp (what I target), bluegill, and bass. Probably snakehead too but I am not sure?
-Tidal Basin - Bass, Snakehead, Occasional Striper - mixed bag area - never fished it but many do
- Gravelly point - stripers can be caught on the right tides
- 4 mile run - bass, small stripers, - discharge
- various trout streams, in VA/MD (accontink (close) or gunpowder (know it well) ) 
- Burke Lake - bass, bluegill, Musky, ect. - can rent boats there - this weekend is last weekend until spring.
- turkey run - carp, probably bass.

Never caught shad or stripers in the Potomac, but alot of experience with stripers as I ripped them on Cape Cod for years and subsequently encountered the odd herring here and there. BUT - this is a quick intro to what I have picked up. 
Shad run in the springtime and that is the only time they are caught, by my knowledge, in the Potomac. Fishing from fletchers is very popular and row boats can be rented. Many use a sinking line (full or intermediate) and flies called Shad Darts and other similar patterns. I have also caught them on Clousers and smaller baitfish patterns.

Stripers are a similar situation and do run in the spring, although a population does hold year round, they are smaller than the migratory fish. 

thats all i got right now.

Tight Lines !



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Hey All,

Just wanted to introduce myself and apologize in advance for any dumb questions I ask regarding fishing in the area. I just moved from Alaska and am certainly missing the ability to fish on my lunch break through the summer. I have been reading about the stripers and shad, two species I have never fished for, so feel like I definitely have a lot to learn. Would love any tips about what flies to use, and which methods work best. I have a 2, 5 and 8-wt rod, as well as lots of flies typical for trout, dollies, and grayling, but nothing specifically for stripers.

I have been walking the dogs at Rock Creek, but haven't seen anything moving in the water there. Any good tips for a newbie to the area? Any gotchas I should know before getting a line wet?

Thanks and tight lines!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tampa bay/Fort De Soto on the fly

Wow that sounds fun. I probably won't be getting together with a guide but it's comforting to hear there are still big fish around after all this red tide talk. I also talked to a local fly shop and it's still not certain if the snook will still be on the beaches by the time I go down, it all depends on the weather. Good luck on your outing!

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I am presently vacationing in St Beach Beach which is just south of Tampa.  I have been fishing the beach in front of our hotel  and seeing good size Snook right in the surf.  So far I've had two on.  The first broke me off at the strike so I increased my 15lb leader to 20 lb and promptly landed my first ever fly caught Snook.

Tonight I am going night fly fishing the dock lights with Capt Brant who was recommended by local Tampa Bay Fly Shop.  Apparently the target fish will be Snook, redfish and baby tarpon.  Should be fun.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Tampa bay/Fort De Soto on the fly

Cool.apparently no red tide problem?

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I am presently vacationing in St Beach Beach which is just south of Tampa.  I have been fishing the beach in front of our hotel  and seeing good size Snook right in the surf.  So far I've had two on.  The first broke me off at the strike so I increased my 15lb leader to 20 lb and promptly landed my first ever fly caught Snook.

Tonight I am going night fly fishing the dock lights with Capt Brant who was recommended by local Tampa Bay Fly Shop.  Apparently the target fish will be Snook, redfish and baby tarpon.  Should be fun.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} New in town

Hey All,

Just wanted to introduce myself and apologize in advance for any dumb questions I ask regarding fishing in the area. I just moved from Alaska and am certainly missing the ability to fish on my lunch break through the summer. I have been reading about the stripers and shad, two species I have never fished for, so feel like I definitely have a lot to learn. Would love any tips about what flies to use, and which methods work best. I have a 2, 5 and 8-wt rod, as well as lots of flies typical for trout, dollies, and grayling, but nothing specifically for stripers.

I have been walking the dogs at Rock Creek, but haven't seen anything moving in the water there. Any good tips for a newbie to the area? Any gotchas I should know before getting a line wet?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Tampa bay/Fort De Soto on the fly

I am presently vacationing in St Beach Beach which is just south of Tampa. I have been fishing the beach in front of our hotel and seeing good size Snook right in the surf. So far I've had two on. The first broke me off at the strike so I increased my 15lb leader to 20 lb and promptly landed my first ever fly caught Snook.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Four mile run license

Rob, where are you seeing the 2" forecast? Weather.com puts the rainfall at 1/2"

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Four mile run license

Four Mile Run has a huge watershed that goes all the way up to West Falls Church Metro. It doesn't take a lot of rain to cause flash flooding at the tidal section. The runoff will take a few days to clear out. Water quality and visibility will be terrible until the end of low tide. The outflow isn't very clear after a major rain event. 





On Oct 25, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Rob Snowhite <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:

2" of rain tomorrow will blow out 4MR this weekend. 

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?01652500

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Hi everyone,

I'm going to be visiting this upcoming weekend and I think I'm going to try and fish the warm water discharge off the Four Mile Run. Can someone tell me which fishing license I should purchase? I'm not sure if that's considered DC or Virginia. 

Thank you!

Henry 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Four mile run license

You need to buy a Virginia license


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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Four mile run license

Thanks everyone!

Rob - What do you mean Blow out? It won't be fish able? 

I'm also thinking about Gravely Point - Is that DC or Virginia? 

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:50:05 AM UTC-4, Henry Wang wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm going to be visiting this upcoming weekend and I think I'm going to try and fish the warm water discharge off the Four Mile Run. Can someone tell me which fishing license I should purchase? I'm not sure if that's considered DC or Virginia. 

Thank you!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Four mile run license

Thanks everyone!

Rob - What do you mean Blow out? It won't be fish able? 

I'm also thinking about Gravely Point - Is that DC or Virginia? 

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:50:05 AM UTC-4, Henry Wang wrote:
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I'm going to be visiting this upcoming weekend and I think I'm going to try and fish the warm water discharge off the Four Mile Run. Can someone tell me which fishing license I should purchase? I'm not sure if that's considered DC or Virginia. 

Thank you!

Henry 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Four mile run license

2" of rain tomorrow will blow out 4MR this weekend. 

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?01652500

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 25, 2018, at 11:09 AM, Henry Wang <hwangnyc@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm going to be visiting this upcoming weekend and I think I'm going to try and fish the warm water discharge off the Four Mile Run. Can someone tell me which fishing license I should purchase? I'm not sure if that's considered DC or Virginia. 

Thank you!

Henry 

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Wednesday, October 24, 2018

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fall Stripers

Any places near Potomac park or the channel to get them from shore?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Inflatable Paddle Board or Inflatable Kayak?

The fishing specific ones look sweet and I could definitely imagine spending an entire day on one.  If you have the budget for one, I'd highly recommend those over a kayak.  I should clarify that I went with a cheaper, non fishing specific model, and bought a few minor items to turn it into somewhat of a fishing craft - but it isn't perfect and I do tend do use it for 2-3hrs max.  But I only spent ~$600.

As far as stability, it is directly related to the surface area of the board. So if you are trying to decide between two 12' L x 36" wide boards, and one is 4.5" thick when inflated and the other is 6" thick...the 6" will be more stable.  

I've also read that the rigid boards are less durable, they can chip and crack, compared to an inflatable made of PVC which will just get shallow scratches.

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 1:13:07 PM UTC-4, Dalton Terrell wrote:
Thanks for the info and keeping the discussion going. What intrigues me about the inflatable boards is the ability to use in DC in the Summer, and keep at my in-laws in Florida through the Winter and Spring.

I've been on paddleboards a few times, but only the rigid type and not ones designed for fishing--these boards seemed stable but maybe not quite fishing all day in the Everglades stable.

Richie, keep us posted if you do a demo day--I'm sure a ton of TPFR folks would like to see and experience the Botes.

Dalton


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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Amazon Trip

unbelievable.  I've been seeing instagram posts from a number of folks who went out with nomadic waters.  Jealousy to the highest degree.  Also great writeup!

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 4:32:29 PM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
A couple weeks ago I had the pleasure of going down to Brazil to go after some Peacock Bass in the Amazon. I went to the general Uatumã Reserve area with Nomadic Waters hosted by Matt Miles. The trip was absolutely incredible. Action was non-stop: between 11 anglers, we caught over 1600 fish (so more frequently than one fish every two minutes!!), and I put about 200 in the boat. I caught a few fish in the 9-lb range, but we had a ton of fish caught in the 13-17 lb range across the group.

Beyond the incredible fishing, the operation itself was incredible. Food was amazing, travel was as simple as you can expect, and it was extremely well organized. The guides spoke extremely limited English, but we had cheat sheets for the most important fishing terms, so communication was not an issue.

Full write up and many more pictures are on my website if you're interested: http://www.findthefishing.com/blog/2018/10/20/peacock-bass-welcome-to-the-jungle/

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Amazon Trip

A couple weeks ago I had the pleasure of going down to Brazil to go after some Peacock Bass in the Amazon. I went to the general Uatumã Reserve area with Nomadic Waters hosted by Matt Miles. The trip was absolutely incredible. Action was non-stop: between 11 anglers, we caught over 1600 fish (so more frequently than one fish every two minutes!!), and I put about 200 in the boat. I caught a few fish in the 9-lb range, but we had a ton of fish caught in the 13-17 lb range across the group.

Beyond the incredible fishing, the operation itself was incredible. Food was amazing, travel was as simple as you can expect, and it was extremely well organized. The guides spoke extremely limited English, but we had cheat sheets for the most important fishing terms, so communication was not an issue.

Full write up and many more pictures are on my website if you're interested: http://www.findthefishing.com/blog/2018/10/20/peacock-bass-welcome-to-the-jungle/

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fall Stripers

I would also add that they have removed a lot of the brush that otherwise would have been in the way of a right handed caster. As a lefty I never had a problem but I can see where a right handed person may have wanted to wade further than they should have in order to get away from the brush.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fall Stripers

While the current does move, I have never waded anywhere near where the current is moving as I am always standing in the frog water. There are a few slippery rocks near the bridge but if you fell there you would just need to pick yourself up. As you wade down from the bridge the bottom is all gravel, shells and silt-very easy to wade. It can get a bit deep during a higher tide but there isn't much to cause you to loose you footing and even if you did, you should be in dead water.

Just don't wade in the current and you will be fine. It isn't a very wide spot so as long as you are a somewhat competent caster you should have no reason to be anywhere near the current.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fall Stripers

I would respectfully disagree with Yambag, while it is not super technical wading, there are some deep holes to watch out for (at least last year), wobbly rocks, and the current can be ripping at times. So just wade slowly and be smart, and you will be fine. 

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 1:13:49 PM UTC-4, Brian Halpern wrote:
I am new to the area as well and would love to connect with a few people learn the area a bit better.
By no means am I an expert at fly fishing ukyet love getting out on a river or stream.
My experience is with trout fishing in North West USA so would love to learn other techniques.
Brian

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 10:57 N Elgas <caca...@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone fish it in the AM pre dawn.  Any one want to meet up before work.  I get in the City between 6 and 630 and normally run or fish the basin to beat rush hour,  but I would love to catch a striper!

I've never fished Gravely or waded there.  I don't have the balls to do it solo in the dark for the first time.  I will bring the coffee and donuts if anyone what's to show me the ropes or figure it out together. 



On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 10:54:21 AM UTC-4, N Elgas wrote:


On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 12:54:18 PM UTC-4, chad tokowicz wrote:
Good day everyone!

New to the area but not new to fly fishing.

Just read charlie taylors fishing report and it stated that stripers are being taken in the Potomac in various spots close to D.C.

Just wondering if anyone has gotten out for stripers recently and if you have had any luck.

Also curious as to how the fishery changes in the fall, does it become more active/ does the fishing pick up?

Been too long since I have felt the tug of a striper so it would be great to hone in on the fish.

Thanks and Tight Lines!

- Chad 

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Inflatable Paddle Board or Inflatable Kayak?

The inflatables are surprisingly stable, and much lighter if you want to portage or hop over an embankment into the next pond or stream. I prefer to cut down the skegs so I can get into skinny water, but I'll bet Richard offers something that already has that capability. For drifting down a big river I still prefer my bomber old versaboard with the retractable skeg because it is nearly indestructible…but thing is heavy. By the way if anybody wants to buy a seat for a versaboard I have a like-new one sitting around. I just use a cooler to sit on instead, but it's great to have a comfy seat if you ever want to paddle it kayak-style. It flips out of the way as needed.

 

Joel

 

From: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com [mailto:tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dalton Terrell
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Inflatable Paddle Board or Inflatable Kayak?

 

Thanks for the info and keeping the discussion going. What intrigues me about the inflatable boards is the ability to use in DC in the Summer, and keep at my in-laws in Florida through the Winter and Spring.

 

I've been on paddleboards a few times, but only the rigid type and not ones designed for fishing--these boards seemed stable but maybe not quite fishing all day in the Everglades stable.

 

Richie, keep us posted if you do a demo day--I'm sure a ton of TPFR folks would like to see and experience the Botes.

 

Dalton

 

 

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