Thursday, June 21, 2018

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Snakes, Chacos and Brookies - a Sunday Funday down the tubes

Copperhead populations have either risen or simply moved up from the water the last couple of years because of moisture. In Virginia and the Carolinas and NE Georgia
I have friends who have seen many more than usual, and though they have avoided being bitten, their dogs haven't been as lucky. Friends have seen them flush against the walls of their houses and sheds while gardening. I don't think it's as bad this year, but last year there was a really big explosion of sightings on the East Coast south of Maryland. The jury is still out on if the increased sightings and big rise in bites is because of copperheads moving up from water sources and thus closer to humans or if their populations have increased somehow because of more rain or both. (Or neither!)

Too many articles to post, but here's one and a couple of screen shots.



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On Jun 21, 2018, at 1:06 PM, 'Miles Townes' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Oh - I totally believe you. I've been bitten by plenty of water snakes, and I never had to see a doctor. Probably by the time your leg started tingling you knew enough to make a definite claim. Water snakes tend to have a pretty messy bite, and often leave little hook shaped teeth behind in the wound. They bleed, but don't go numb.

But it seems like every year, somebody posts on here about seeing copperheads in/on/near the river. Further investigation usually reveals they were Northern Water Snakes (not Brown - my bad on the species). This is the first time I've seen a definite copperhead ID. I guess even in the context of your unfortunate mishap, it's worth reminding people that copperheads and water snakes can look very similar.

best,
Miles

On Thursday, June 21, 2018, 10:54:16 AM EDT, Morgan Cosgrove <cosgrove.morgan@gmail.com> wrote:


Certainly was a copperhead. I've seen eastern watersnakes in the park and in the rivers, certainly wasn't. After the doctor's chat, and upon further inspection of the situation I determined it was a copperhead. Apparently copperheads are very territorial, and will strike if they feel bothered. Where as a rattler or other snake will hide and chill and lash out in a last resort. 

 In the Culpepper ER they have seen 4-5 copperhead bites this year, so not terribly uncommon in those parts. Glad the care was on point. Today I finally have some mobility in my leg and foot, and hope to be able to walk in the next few days. 

On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 8:03:00 AM UTC-4, Miles wrote:
Are you sure it wasn't a Brown Water Snake?

Sorry - I had to do it before TurbineBlade did.

I can't imagine how much this sucks. On the plus side, I bet a flyfishing mag would pay for a fuller version of your post.

-Miles

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