Tuesday, July 18, 2017

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tips for Fishing the Shenandoah River from a canoe

To piggy back off of what others have said, if your floating along and wanting to fish from the canoe, you can limit some of the stress of "where do I start casting" by targeting the banks.  I like to keep the boat facing directly downstream about a casts length away from the shore - 3 or 4 rod lengths off at a minimum but more helps.   Casting directly perpendicular to the shore works well.  Like Gene mentioned, casting angled 45-degrees downstream and toward the bank works well too because the fish will see the fly first and not you or your fly line. And if you can get your fly (topwater or subsurface) to land within a rods length or half a rods length from the bank, you'll be in the money.  

If fishing top water out of a boat, no need for big strips and lots of recasting, try to keep it simple.  Try to use a pick-it-up-lay-it-down-let-it-ride-style that one can fish sitting. Try to get a 15-30 second drag-less drift if you can.  A twitch of the line or small strip every 5-10 seconds or even 15 seconds works well and if it starts to drag badly, just pick it up and lay it back down to start over.  More than likely a quick mend following the cast will set your up well for a good drift, or adjusting the canoe's position does too.  

Also, if you can find two to four feet of water moving at a walking pace with a gravel bottom along the bank or in the middle of the river - you will find fish.  Grass edges will have hold fish.  So will the downstream side of log jams, shady spots under low hanging branches or around bridges, above rock ledges in large pool tail-outs, and in smaller pools formed between close together ledges.  These are all fantastic ambush spots.

And keep your eyes and ears peeled for small streams entering the river.  There are spring creeks that dump into the river on many of it's stretches and make for a great spot to cool down your ankles on hot summer days and will also harbor fish on the downstream side of it's mouth. 

This is all assuming you are floating with a second person in the boat who is steering.  If at some point they want to fish, don't let them cast over the middle of the canoe.  Nobody likes getting a sneaky pete stuck in their neck.  Roll casts or cross-body casts serve everyone well when fishing out of a boat, no matter the size or type.

Good luck this weekend and let us know how it goes!

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 11:58:53 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Sorry Marnie -- My wife and I floated the SF Shenandoah virtually every weekend the last 2 summers, until we had a baby....I generally fly fishing while standing off of the bow, while she spin fishes from the stern. 

If you want to catch the big smallmouth, my advice is to cast in the aforementioned shaded and/or spots very near to structure ("fishy" spots) out in front of the canoe.  If you can plot a huge popper or streamer in front of the fish before they're aware of you, you get more hook-ups.  Aside from that, just get out there a lot and experiment until you find what works and/or what makes you happy.  If you like to "beach" the canoe and drift a small woolly bugger through some sections with big redbreast sunfish instead of trying for 2-3 big smallies per trip, go for it.  If you want to squeeze the belly of a fallfish to hear it gurgle, go for it. 

I'm happier catching 50+ fat sunfish than I am having shots at 2-3 big smallies.  My wife tends toward the latter and calls my pursuit of sunfish "fishing for children" ;).  Both are acceptable. 

Gene

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 10:28:20 AM UTC-4, Greggory DiSalvo wrote:
Let's just say, these..."fisherpeople" were not using any soft plastics...

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 9:56:22 AM UTC-4, Marnie D wrote:
It seems it drifted in that direction, but not the initial question....  (rolling eyes while smiling)

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:54 AM TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:
In any event, I hope everyone reading this now knows how to identify naked people engaged in sexual reproduction while floating the Shenandoah river.  I'm too lazy to scroll up, but that was the original question right? 

Gene


On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:
Thomas - L-O-V-E..... initials? ;-)
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:11 AM, tperkins <thomas....@gmail.com> wrote:
Did the "lady" have a L-O-V-E tattoo on her rear? 

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 8:55:38 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Word of warning as last summers float led two of our canoes down one of these channels and we interrupted a lovely couple in the midst of some mating ritual.....

Did the guy have a back tattoo that says "Bartenders do it till your barf!"?   

TB


On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 8:38:05 AM UTC-4, Greggory DiSalvo wrote:
I second the crawfish patterns.  I catch the VAST majority of smallies on them in that river.  Late afternoon turns to the perfect topwater bite. blue poppers, shade, shoreline, and behind rocks is awesome!  

Also explore some of the back channels around the river bends as they have held some pigs in the past.  Word of warning as last summers float led two of our canoes down one of these channels and we interrupted a lovely couple in the midst of some mating ritual.....made ever more awkward by the fact they didn't see or hear us until we were right on them...Very awkward. Did I mention crawfish pattens are great? 

Gregg

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 2:17:05 PM UTC-4, Marnie D wrote:
Good Monday Morning!!!

Heading out to Shenandoah River via canoe this coming weekend and would appreciate your advise/experience/things to know...especially when it deals with fishing from the canoe... 

My experience comes from Casting For Recovery and have done some wading and shore line fishing, but not while floating...

Thanks in advance!!!

Marnie
CfR 2013

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