Bruce, You don't really need to know the names of the hatches. It's fun to play the "educated angler", but all you need to know is "size 16, brown mayfly" or size 14 tan caddis. In the long run you get further by close observation than knowing the names. Observer and read. There are a ton of books about matching the hatches. Joe Humpheys and Charlie Meck are good starting places because they focus on PA (which matches MD).
For VA, Harry Murray's books are good.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Thomson <thomson.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, all, for the replies.First, Richard, on your fourth point, I do think the fly is larger than you think - it was a solid 1.5-2 inches in length. Throughout the day, I saw large greenish/yellow mayflies coming off (which I assumed to be green drakes, and which you suggest to be the case in your first point) as well as large grayish mayflies in the same size, maybe a bit larger. During the after dark spinner fall, there were clouds of the sulphur duns, many of which had eggs, as well as what looked like the large gray mayflies from earlier, only now their entire "tail" (there's no doubt a better term for that) was white - as seen in that third image. That is, I assumed it was the spinner of the large gray mayfly because in that lighting the upper body still seemed gray, but it may well have been a green drake spinner.Ryan - re: camping, on the Upper Savage there are campsites next to the road that parallels the stream. It's not ideal, I agree, to camp directly next to a road, but given the proximity of the road to the river, backcountry sites aren't really an option. I camped in site #110 which is on the stream side of the road and I've had great luck fishing directly from that site down about a mile before a stretch that seems to get much more pressure. I've never once seen anyone else fishing that stretch while I've seen many others on the parts downstream leading to the reservoir. Camping there is $10/night paid at general store down there road. Site #110 has no water/bathroom facilities as far as I know.
On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:08:36 AM UTC-4, Terry C wrote:There is a campsite directly across from the river on the other side of the road for I believe 4 tents, there is an outhouse but no other amenities. I have stayed there, nice just walk across the road and the river is there.
On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:08:38 AM UTC-4, Ryan D wrote:Bruce,I've been wanting to fish the Savage for a little while now. Do you have to use campsites there or is it more like back country camping? I would really prefer to make my own camp somewhere.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard Farino <ric...@urbanangler.com> wrote:
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- First image is a female green drake dun – Ephemerella guttulata – note the tiny eyes
- Second image – too small, but it appears there are several insects there, particularly a Blue quill spinner – Paraleptophlebia adoptiva – note the white abdomen and red rear near the tail
- Third image is a female sulphur dun – Ephemerella invaria. Note the clutch of eggs she's got at the tip of the abdomen.
- Last image in the dark definitely threw me off - it looks like female coffin fly (green drake spinner) – Ephemerella guttulata. The picture is deceiving and I'm wondering if you have larger hands and that's why the bug doesn't look as large as they normally do. If it were late July I would've guessed it to be a white fly – Ephoron leukon.
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From: Bruce Thomson <thomso...@gmail.com>
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Upper Savage HatchThis past week I spent a night camping and fishing along the Upper Savage in western Md. Had some great luck with numerous brookies caught on dries and nymphs despite low water.What I found very interesting, though, was the volume and diversity of insects life coming off the water. There seemed a prolific hatch and subsequent spinner falls of what I'm guessing were sulphurs, green drakes, a large grey mayfly, and yellow caddis.Clearly a healthy stream.I'm relatively new to hatch ID and would love it if folks could help me confirm what was coming off. I snapped a few shots (attached) of some of what I found coming off, or later falling back. In fact, around the campfire, at one point long after dark, there were swarms of what I think were sulphur spinners, actually laying orange eggs on the book I was reading. They disappeared at one point and jet-black caddis showed up thereafter.In any case, the fishing was good, but I found the insect activity fascinating. Help confirming what I was seeing would be appreciated.Thanks,Bruce
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