Monday, September 16, 2013

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Carp Addict

I think the timing associated with setting the hook is just part of carp fishing.  They quickly refuse what the recognize as non-organic.   

I missed more then one with bad timing at the recent Denver Carp Slam, but was successful listening to my pro/spotter on a long distance cast to a shadow tell me when to set; which successfully hooked the fish and started an incredible 10 minute fight.

I've hooked them using an indicator with a soft hackle non-weight fly dangling about 18 inches underneath, but I was still sight fishing from a bank and could seen them go after the fly.  I should say the indicator rarely indicated much....

Sparkr

Steve


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> wrote:
So I got back out yesterday, and found myself in a dream situation... a mess of giant (smallest was probably 24" and most looked 30"+ - but then again, the biggest fish are always the ones that get away), actively feeding carp with not-too-muddy water, and a wide open space to backcast. Unfortunately, I came up empty. On two, I just timed the hook set poorly with the adrenaline, one I missed because a biker screamed at me to watch out (wasn't casting or anything) as I was watching a carp go after my fly (by the time I looked back after being startled, I saw the carp spit the fly), but my biggest problem was just not being able to see the fly. These guys were feeding so heavily, they silted up the water pretty quickly, but even before that, I kept watching carp follow my fly only to have it sink out of sight before they actually took it. I kept guessing (incorrectly) at the time to set the hook. Does anyone have any tricks to combat this? I even tied up a bunch of unweighted soft hackles, and the fly still sank too fast. 


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> wrote:
My go-to in the canal has been a bead head soft hackle. I keep meaning to tie up a non-bead head soft hackle that stays higher in the water column though. When the water is closer to chocolate milk, I have a very hard time giving the carp enough time to make the decision to eat before the fly drops out of sight and the strike is no longer detectable. 


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Stephen Sparks <stephenrsparks@gmail.com> wrote:
John,

I've always used a weighted woolly bugger.  

I also have some floating cottonwood seedlings and a few floating mulberry bush berries imitations.

Steve


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:21 AM, John Kaden <johngkaden@gmail.com> wrote:
Carp shown in my pic was caught on a size 6 hook. It was a basic peacock hurl wrapped w. grizzled hackle.  I was fishing really skinny water where you could see their backs above the water in some spots.  They were hitting this white stuff that was blowing off the trees and slurping some other stuff on the surface.  I could manipulate the aforementioned fly and get it to sink enough in the water column to catch their attention.  In similar circumstances earlier in the year I caught one on a snoozberry fly, tied based upon fish and stream article.  My snobby fly fishing buddy said that snoozberry wasn't a real fly, hence the 2nd fly.

At Lock 7 I could not get them to eat anything as they were cruising when I fished for them not really eating.   I guess based upon the black wholly bugger, I am gonna tie a few with weights and few without.  Those without should float and then I can drop them in the water column at Lock 7.  After 10/1 I will have time to meet. Maybe then we can compare flies, styles and try to take down some golden potomac bones.




On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Sparkr <stephenrsparks@gmail.com> wrote:
Nedak,

I typically use a black wolly bugger with green flash... it's been my "go to" for a host of species for a very long time... caught a Donaldson steelhead, rainbow and brown Labor day weekend all on the same fly fishing private waters in Empire, CO; and have hooked nearly all my carp catches on this fly.

Backstabber is also good as are some of the clouser minnows; 

What are you using?

STeve


On Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:35:25 AM UTC-4, Nedak wrote:
Steve-

How about some flies that you use?  Looking for suggestions to tie.


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Sparkr <stephen...@gmail.com> wrote:
One thing I learned from the PRO I fished with this last week was using 1x flurocarbon leaders.  While my big fish threw the hook my line didn't break despite all the running around the fish attempted.

Steve


On Monday, August 19, 2013 12:57:53 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Hi, my name is Jeff, and I'm a carp addict.

I'm not sure how I've missed out on carp for so long, but I got my first taste of carp on the fly on Saturday. I swung by Orvis and chatted with Dan on new places to try (locally, I rarely hit anywhere but 4MR), and he suggested trying carp at Lock 7. I took the advice, and ran into one of our fellow members, Jim (sorry if I'm remembering your name wrong). Jim was nice enough to give me the 411 on what to look for and how to attack them after I mentioned it was my first time.

The actual approach was incredibly similar to the limited flats fishing experience I have for tarpon. Find the fish, lead it, and don't screw up the cast. I spooked my fair share of fish, had at least one more spit the hook before finally getting my way. I had a very nice size one peel off the group after my fly. I watched the take and hit him. Unfortunately, the fight lasted no more than 10 seconds, since it took an immediate dive for a log and wrapped my leader up and broke free. That would be my only hook up with the golden bone that day... but I can't stop itching to get back out for some.

If you haven't given carp a look before... you need to reconsider. 

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