Wednesday, August 21, 2013

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Kayak fly rod?

I love my drag chains for my canoe. I have three pieces that I can clip on the end of the anchor line and instead of duct tape, I drop each section in an old piece of innertube. I use the whole system from the stern using a commercial anchor management pulley system. In slill water, it is enough to stop me and comes up with less debris than a mushroom or grappling anchor.

I will also reiterate: Do not use in fast water. If you use a drag anchor you will have incidents, no matter what speed the water is. It will hang under a rock or limb and will jerk you stern downwards. I have never had the stern go under, but it has been close. That is a risk you run, no matter the speed of the water, but the risk goes up the faster the water moves. For instance on my favorite float, I won't use the drag anchor at all if the river is over 2.5' at Point of Rocks.

Nobody should be on the water without a knife. I rank a knife right up there with a PFD. I won't wade without a knife either. Get a serrated one with a blunt tip. Many manufacturers make whitewater specific blades. If you find that too scary, carry a rescue tool. They are a small hooked shaped tool, usually with a couple of finger holes. they are meant to be clipped to a life jacket or belt. The blade hooks around the rope and cuts all the way through with very little effort. The one I have is about the size of a deck of cards and 1/4" thick. It will go through 1/2" rope like butter. It will cut all the way through a seatbelt with a slight tug.

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:22 AM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:
Thanks for all the advice.  I think I'll try the chain setup.


From: Vic Velasco <velasco...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Kayak fly rod?

The depth of the water also matters if you are going to use a drag chain tied on to a dog leash.  If the leash isn't long enough, you will just be suspending the chain and still drift with the current.

If you are going to be in deeper water, you may want to use 550 cord in sufficient  length, or move to a shallower spot.

I tried using my drag chain/dog leash setup while paddling out above Fletcher's - in the middle of the river, I wasn't dragging the chain.  I moved closer to the banks and then I was fine.



On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:06:54 PM UTC-4, dubblehaul wrote:
I will add that I don't use one in fast water. The can be quite dangerous or just a pain to use. A quick release is recommended, or a bladed escape tool at the ready. 

On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Dubble Haul <dubbl...@waywardangler.com> wrote:

I wrapped chain with black duct tape. Put a small zip-tie on one end for a loop, then clip my retractable dog leash system to it. 

On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Michael Smith <ryb...@ryzhe.ath.cx> wrote:

It's just a heavy something on a rope that slows down your movement as it drags across the bottom.  Most folks use 1-2 pounds of chain or a window sash weight.  Some folks rig them up with dog leash retractors so you can pull up the drag anchor quickly.  Another technique is the drift sock, which is an underwater umbrella that slows down your drift.


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From: Art Friedlander <just...@yahoo.com>
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Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:29 AM
To: "tidal-potoma...@ googlegroups.com" <tidal-potoma...@ googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Kayak fly rod?

Can you [and others] provide some more information about the drag anchor?


From: Steve F <spfb...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Kayak fly rod?

I had never fished with a drag anchor prior to a new kayak purchase a few months ago.  It's an absolute game changer for fishing in current.  The ability to maintain a constant orientation in most wind conditions and the ability to slow-crawl downstream allows me cover the water like never before.  Between that and a stand-up kayak, it's an entirely different experience.
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