Thursday, February 16, 2017

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Nice Weekend Coming Up

Is there any evidence out there to suggest that fish fin cannibalism is a symptom of hatchery life? That used to be my understanding until my girlfriend brought this unfortunate looking rainbow to the net on the Mighty 'Mo in Montana last summer. As many of you probably konw, Montana stopped stocking its rivers in 1974 so there's little-to-no chance that this fish was raised in any sort of enclosure. 

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On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 1:58:07 PM UTC-5, Josh wrote:
Thanks for all the advice.  Of course I was laid up last weekend, but this weekend looks like the weather this weekend looks like it is going to be even better, so I will endeavor to get on a river somewhere.  

I do appreciate the discussion about gizzard shad and needlefish.  I didn't realize that the Jawa of fish smelled so bad.  I'll do my best to avoid catching them this weekend. 


On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 1:15:40 PM UTC-5, Greggory DiSalvo wrote:
gotcha.  I suppose I never really noticed as the two I have caught came at the end of the day and my stripping guards already carried a righteous smell.  I'll have to pay more attention this year 

On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 9:45:52 AM UTC-5, Rob Snowhite wrote:
It's the smell and the slime. You can't wash off that gizzard shad funk. 

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On Feb 13, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Greggory DiSalvo <grdi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Rob, Other than the negative connotation that comes with the name and the mud label, why do folks hate them so much?  they put a nice bend in the rod, but I don't know much about them from an environmental standpoint.  Do they have a negative impact on the ecosystem?  Too many of them? No predators?  Too competitive?  I'd love to learn more about them. 

Gregg

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 6:35:08 PM UTC-5, Rob Snowhite wrote:
Gizzard shad are the jawa of the fish world. 🤢

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On Feb 11, 2017, at 6:21 PM, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:

4MR was really tore-up last time I was there, making it even less scenic if you can believe it.  I'm sure the intention is to improve the structure along the banks (I remember the plan being posted here a few years ago), but it had to be said that just about anything resembling structure along the north bank is completely destroyed, and there were huge tarps installed along a lot of the stream (obviously to prevent erosion from the construction).  

The usual suspects are still right at the outfall (small LMB, sunfish, school of gizzard shad) but i wouldn't call it an ideal place to fish at the moment.  

Gene

On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 5:03:16 PM UTC-5, Rob Snowhite wrote:
I'll prob head over to Holmes for more aquarium critters. You'd be surprised how much lives in there. 

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On Feb 10, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Greggory DiSalvo <grdi...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's great to hear.  I'm attaching a photo of what pretty much everything looked like last year.  That's also a great point on the poaching.  Harder to do it with more eyes on you.

On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 3:57:31 PM UTC-5, Brian McGough wrote:
Ive been to holmes run a few times in the last few weeks. I have gotten 2 or 3 takes, but that is it. That area is heavily poached, but there are one or 2 left in the first pool after the damn and maybe one or two in some other places in the creek. Rumor is that there is a nice sized brown hanging out in the pool between the first and second stream crossing, but I have never seen it.

Also heard the rumor that there MAY be a sticking of Holmes Run and Accotink in the near future, although I dont know how reliable that info is. Good luck!

Brian McGough

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Nicholas Gurley <ngurl...@mac.com> wrote:
I've been fishing on 4 Mile Run when I can get out of work (or if its a little warmer, on the weekends).  Good amount of pressure from spin anglers, but I've seen them mostly by the subway/US 1 bridges to the east.  I've seen two other fly fishermen the two times I've gone. 

I had a nice day where I caught 8 bluegill off a Chernobyl ant, and another day I caught 2 large-mouth bass off a Wooley Bugger.  If you see me out there, I'm the new guy who has casting problems, but I'm doing my best to work through them!

I might be out there Saturday, but I'm also learning to the Accotink (I haven't been there yet, so it'd be fun to scout it out).  I've been to Holmes Run, but I went earlier in the winter and haven't been back.

On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 1:20:39 AM UTC-5, Josh wrote:
I was considering Accotink or Holmes Run, but I wasn't sure how many fish will have persisted since the VDFG stocked the streams in October.  Does anyone have any experience with Four Mile Run in the winter? I thought I might try to hit up the warm water output during low tide.  

On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 8:43:55 PM UTC-5, Rusty Shackleford wrote:
If anyone goes this weekend, I'd love to hear if there are any fish left.  They way they get poached at Holmes I've been too pessimistic to check it out myself.

On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 4:34:00 PM UTC-5, Bryan wrote:
Saturday looks to be the best now. I was thinking of either Accotink or Holmes Run. MIght be some hold overs from the fall stocking.

Bryan

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Josh <joshua.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
It looks like it is going to be pretty nice this weekend and I am itching to get out and fish.  Does anyone have any ideas within an hour or so of DC? I don't think I'll have all day, but I would like to get out for a couple of hours during the warmth of the day on either Saturday or Sunday.  Thanks in advance for the help!

Josh

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