Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} SNP Status

Yeah, I think the recent rains put in just enough. I talked with Murray's fly shop today who said the SNP waters are pretty cold, but letting them warm up until mid-morning should improve activity. 

I might also try Big Stoney - anyone familiar with that water? Believe it was stocked up back on 10/11

Will let you know how it goes!

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Andrew Sarcinello <andysarce@gmail.com> wrote:

Looks like the park has already gotten about an inch of rain the past two days - I take back my comment about low flows.  Should be pretty decent actually, good luck. If you read through that other thread I'd say another key is look for sunlit areas.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Oak Orchard - Dec 9th

Oh, there is plenty of lifting going on at the Oak.  I was just talking about the people actually trying to get them to eat a fly.   I have never felt a need to go anywhere near as small as 14 when fishing the great lakes tribs.  8 and 10 will be fine.  They used to drain the canal in mid to late November, not sure if that is still the case.  My guess is that it has already been done and flows will be rainfall dependent.  Fortunately they have been getting some rain lately. 

I have never bothered to fish the area on the far side.  There is only decent flow in there when there has been tons of rain.  More than likely, any fish in there will be stranded and not an appropriate target for anything other than the scummiest of snaggers.  If anything, probably zombie salmon or gross browns. 

Typically you should start seeing more steelhead this time of year, but it is my understanding that steelhead runs have been really poor this year on the Ontario tribs. 

On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 4:26:35 PM UTC-5, Miguel CuUnjieng wrote:

Thank you so much for your insight - Im happy to hear people generally fish indicator rigs, I am so sick of seeing people "lift" salmon and steelhead while chuck and ducking on the Salmon River.  I will plan to throw those egg flies for sure (size 10-12 still work or should I get down to 14?) and will keep track of the Erie canal draining schedule/flows situation to determine weight and depth.  

Very aware of the short stretch of water to explore, and excited to make the most of it.  Have noticed a few more popular spots within this stretch and will try to scope them out.  I understand we are also allowed to wade in and fish the smaller far side waterfall at the dam - would you recommend fishing up in this area as well, or is this generally a salmon spot with fewer fish holding here in the winter months? 

As you mention - fingers crossed we miss the salmon crowds and we get into some browns including the ones in decent shape as well.  Thanks again!

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 1:34:42 PM UTC-5, Yambag Nelson wrote:

Its been several years since I fished the Oak, but I used to fish it quite a bit.  The vast majority of people fly fishing will be using an indicator rig with egg patterns.  The normal stuff will work (estaz eggs, blood dots, sucker spawn ect).  There are a couple of local patterns but egg patterns in general.  Throw a split shot on about a foot about the fly and you are good to go. 

if you are into swinging, there are a couple of swingable spots but for the most part, it is a dead drift deal.  It isn't particularly deep so you don't need very heavy tips if you do decide to try and swing. 

FWIW, in case you aren't aware, there is really only about a mile of fishable water (some of which you need a pfd) so it is pretty much impossible to get away from the crowds.  You will be going post salmon season so it may not be that horrible though.  Should be browns (some of which will be in rough shape).

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 1:18:25 PM UTC-5, Miguel CuUnjieng wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Been a while since I've posted here, but always appreciate the amazing insight from those on this forum.

Im heading up with some friends to fish Oak Orchard near Albion, NY, hoping to get into some steelhead, browns, and maybe a zombie or two haha!  Ive had mixed luck at the Salmon River the past 2 years, and am looking for a change of scenery, and to get away from the full-on salmon crowds and hopefully fewer snaggers.  

Any tips anyone could provide on the following items would be greatly appreciated:

1) locations and tactics - I have seen many videos of people bottom bouncing and indicator nymphing.  Any comments on preferred tactics, and tips on weight/setup would be great too.  SO far I have been unable to find if people are going down to 4x to get into fish here, or keeping things at 2-3x and hopefully keeping a few more on the line.

2) flies - I have been tying egg patterns in sizes 10-14, mayflies and caddis in size 14, and black and brown stoneflies in size 12.  Any advice on specific patterns, colors, or comments on whether I am tying the right bugs would be great!  (I am the one tying flies for the three of us...I'm feeling the pressure and hope these flies work for us!)

3) lodging - we are looking for a place to stay (on the cheaper side) that is fisherman friendly.  Doing some research as well, however all pointers are helpful :)

Thanks again guys and sending tight lines all around!

- Miguel 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Striped Bass/Smallmouth Bass

I went to my usual spot last night and though there were still small baitfish around dimpling the surface in the bridge lights, no signs of schoolies or other fish eating them. Caught a 6" yellow perch on a size 2 clouser though.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} SNP Status

Looks like the park has already gotten about an inch of rain the past two days - I take back my comment about low flows. Should be pretty decent actually, good luck. If you read through that other thread I'd say another key is look for sunlit areas.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Oak Orchard - Dec 9th

Thank you so much for your insight - Im happy to hear people generally fish indicator rigs, I am so sick of seeing people "lift" salmon and steelhead while chuck and ducking on the Salmon River.  I will plan to throw those egg flies for sure (size 10-12 still work or should I get down to 14?) and will keep track of the Erie canal draining schedule/flows situation to determine weight and depth.  

Very aware of the short stretch of water to explore, and excited to make the most of it.  Have noticed a few more popular spots within this stretch and will try to scope them out.  I understand we are also allowed to wade in and fish the smaller far side waterfall at the dam - would you recommend fishing up in this area as well, or is this generally a salmon spot with fewer fish holding here in the winter months? 

As you mention - fingers crossed we miss the salmon crowds and we get into some browns including the ones in decent shape as well.  Thanks again!

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 1:34:42 PM UTC-5, Yambag Nelson wrote:

Its been several years since I fished the Oak, but I used to fish it quite a bit.  The vast majority of people fly fishing will be using an indicator rig with egg patterns.  The normal stuff will work (estaz eggs, blood dots, sucker spawn ect).  There are a couple of local patterns but egg patterns in general.  Throw a split shot on about a foot about the fly and you are good to go. 

if you are into swinging, there are a couple of swingable spots but for the most part, it is a dead drift deal.  It isn't particularly deep so you don't need very heavy tips if you do decide to try and swing. 

FWIW, in case you aren't aware, there is really only about a mile of fishable water (some of which you need a pfd) so it is pretty much impossible to get away from the crowds.  You will be going post salmon season so it may not be that horrible though.  Should be browns (some of which will be in rough shape).

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 1:18:25 PM UTC-5, Miguel CuUnjieng wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Been a while since I've posted here, but always appreciate the amazing insight from those on this forum.

Im heading up with some friends to fish Oak Orchard near Albion, NY, hoping to get into some steelhead, browns, and maybe a zombie or two haha!  Ive had mixed luck at the Salmon River the past 2 years, and am looking for a change of scenery, and to get away from the full-on salmon crowds and hopefully fewer snaggers.  

Any tips anyone could provide on the following items would be greatly appreciated:

1) locations and tactics - I have seen many videos of people bottom bouncing and indicator nymphing.  Any comments on preferred tactics, and tips on weight/setup would be great too.  SO far I have been unable to find if people are going down to 4x to get into fish here, or keeping things at 2-3x and hopefully keeping a few more on the line.

2) flies - I have been tying egg patterns in sizes 10-14, mayflies and caddis in size 14, and black and brown stoneflies in size 12.  Any advice on specific patterns, colors, or comments on whether I am tying the right bugs would be great!  (I am the one tying flies for the three of us...I'm feeling the pressure and hope these flies work for us!)

3) lodging - we are looking for a place to stay (on the cheaper side) that is fisherman friendly.  Doing some research as well, however all pointers are helpful :)

Thanks again guys and sending tight lines all around!

- Miguel 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Effects of wildfire on salmonid?

http://www.northernrockiesfire.org/effects/aqimme.htm

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/683338

I think you can expect some immediate effects in streams that are directly in the impacted areas.  Obviously some fish will die as will food sources.  However, wildfires have been occurring since the beginning of time and the fish and aquatic species adapt and survive.  In fact, the vegetation and surrounding stream foliage will comeback stronger than ever after a wildfire.  It will take time but it's essentially the circle of life.  It may take a year or several for the stream and area to regenerate but no doubt it will come back better than ever.

The real problem with wildfires is when they are not a natural occurrence but rather caused by people.  Then, it's not in nature's natural cycle and too many fires close together will have a long-lasting negative impact on the area and may change it forever. 

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 3:02:28 PM UTC-5, ALarge wrote:

Well, the Great Smokey Mountains are a lot smokier than usual right now. My beloved mountains are on fire. Growing up in Tennessee and in school at UT, the Smokies were always a short jaunt away for some of the best small stream mountain fishing in the world (IMO). 

Seeing all the devastation in and around Gatlinburg and the park, I got to thinking about what might become of the trout population following a large-scale fire like the one raging through the park and surrounding areas. I'm thinking that a deluge of ash and soot will surely find its way into every stream large enough to hold trout. Will the fish and the aquatic insects they eat be able to survive a disaster like this in strong numbers? 

Obviously the brook trout has survived in these mountains for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years of naturally occurring fires.  I'm curious what to expect when I head home in the next several months. 

Any wildlife biologists with an understanding of the issue? 

It looks like one significant non-native fish population is safe: http://www.wbir.com/news/local/fire-surrounds-ripleys-aquarium-thousands-of-animals-left-behind/357623054

V/r

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Found your Lure

Looks like a leader spool, what brand fro catfish or S/W, I don't know. Seems familiar.

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

+1 on the 6wt recommendation.  A 9 foot 6wt salt water rod (with fighting butt) is perfect for shad.  The rod will throw a 300 grain sinking line when fishing from a boat or a 150 grain or floating line equally well when fishing from shore.

On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 9:54:18 PM UTC-5, arthur noglak wrote:

Brian,

Welcome to the group!

I would agree with Terry about the 6wt. It seems to be the perfect shad and smallmouth rod for the river. However , this past spring I started targeting some larger striped bass on the Potomac; big  tackle was necessary. I second Yambag's notion about the 8wt; it's a very versatile rod to have .

Two handed fly rods are another great resource for the river. They are fun and easy to cast long distances. I find that Spey fishing, although sometimes misunderstood and even criticized , is a different experience altogether. Some of our members teach free single and two handed casting lessons on the weekends at Fletchers Boathouse.

Art

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Wait a minute.... :)

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From: Carl Z. Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 19:11 To: tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com Reply To: tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

My favorite is a 6ft light action spinning rod.  Spoons and darts seem to get down faster and stay down longer than even T-14 line.  And to be honest, once your chucking T-14 I'm not sure it's fly fishing.  You could probably club them to death with that much weight. 

Carl

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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Terry C <flycs...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have fished a 6 wt for the past 30 yrs  perfect size shad rod In my opinion.  A must is a 250 gr depth charge line.   Its all about getting in the zone.  Once you find it " Look Out".  I have spent numerous days catching fish after fish and the boat next to me very few because they were using a floating line of a 10-15 ft sing tip.   

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 8:15:07 AM UTC-5, Brian Cohen wrote:

Hi there TPFRs - new fly fisherman here.  I've spent the summer trying to figure things out with my 6-weight, and am now thinking ahead to the spring.  Will a 6-weight get the job done for shad, or do I need to add a new rod (7-weight? 8-weight?) to my collection?

Thanks,

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Giving Tuesday and Casting for Recovery Mid-Atlantic

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} SNP Status

Thanks for the direction, very much appreciated!

Looks like the Rapidan will receive a visit, then the Rose. Fingers crossed for taut lines - will let y'all know how it goes.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Andrew Sarcinello <andysarce@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's a recent thread. Expect LOW flows even after today's rain.  Steepest streams will be holding the most water.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} SNP Status

Here's a recent thread. Expect LOW flows even after today's rain. Steepest streams will be holding the most water.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Effects of wildfire on salmonid?

Well, the Great Smokey Mountains are a lot smokier than usual right now. My beloved mountains are on fire. Growing up in Tennessee and in school at UT, the Smokies were always a short jaunt away for some of the best small stream mountain fishing in the world (IMO). 

Seeing all the devastation in and around Gatlinburg and the park, I got to thinking about what might become of the trout population following a large-scale fire like the one raging through the park and surrounding areas. I'm thinking that a deluge of ash and soot will surely find its way into every stream large enough to hold trout. Will the fish and the aquatic insects they eat be able to survive a disaster like this in strong numbers? 

Obviously the brook trout has survived in these mountains for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years of naturally occurring fires.  I'm curious what to expect when I head home in the next several months. 

Any wildlife biologists with an understanding of the issue? 

It looks like one significant non-native fish population is safe: http://www.wbir.com/news/local/fire-surrounds-ripleys-aquarium-thousands-of-animals-left-behind/357623054

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} SNP Status

First time to post here, always enjoyed the depth of knowledge on SNP streams found on these threads, though. 

I'm planning on heading out the Eastern side of the Blue Ridge this weekend to catch up on trout fishing (work has kept me in isolation most of the Fall). 

First time looking for trout on this side of the SNP - any advice on what to expect, tips on where to go, what to use, etc?

I was thinking of tackling the Hughes, Rapidan, or Conway. How well are these waters doing at this point in the season regarding water levels and fish activity?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Oak Orchard - Dec 9th

Its been several years since I fished the Oak, but I used to fish it quite a bit.  The vast majority of people fly fishing will be using an indicator rig with egg patterns.  The normal stuff will work (estaz eggs, blood dots, sucker spawn ect).  There are a couple of local patterns but egg patterns in general.  Throw a split shot on about a foot about the fly and you are good to go. 

if you are into swinging, there are a couple of swingable spots but for the most part, it is a dead drift deal.  It isn't particularly deep so you don't need very heavy tips if you do decide to try and swing. 

FWIW, in case you aren't aware, there is really only about a mile of fishable water (some of which you need a pfd) so it is pretty much impossible to get away from the crowds.  You will be going post salmon season so it may not be that horrible though.  Should be browns (some of which will be in rough shape).

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 1:18:25 PM UTC-5, Miguel CuUnjieng wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Been a while since I've posted here, but always appreciate the amazing insight from those on this forum.

Im heading up with some friends to fish Oak Orchard near Albion, NY, hoping to get into some steelhead, browns, and maybe a zombie or two haha!  Ive had mixed luck at the Salmon River the past 2 years, and am looking for a change of scenery, and to get away from the full-on salmon crowds and hopefully fewer snaggers.  

Any tips anyone could provide on the following items would be greatly appreciated:

1) locations and tactics - I have seen many videos of people bottom bouncing and indicator nymphing.  Any comments on preferred tactics, and tips on weight/setup would be great too.  SO far I have been unable to find if people are going down to 4x to get into fish here, or keeping things at 2-3x and hopefully keeping a few more on the line.

2) flies - I have been tying egg patterns in sizes 10-14, mayflies and caddis in size 14, and black and brown stoneflies in size 12.  Any advice on specific patterns, colors, or comments on whether I am tying the right bugs would be great!  (I am the one tying flies for the three of us...I'm feeling the pressure and hope these flies work for us!)

3) lodging - we are looking for a place to stay (on the cheaper side) that is fisherman friendly.  Doing some research as well, however all pointers are helpful :)

Thanks again guys and sending tight lines all around!

- Miguel 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Found your Lure

In the first picture, is that a disc brake rotor from a Geo Tracker, or a large arbor fly reel?

Gene

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-5, TurbineBlade wrote:

Looks like a yella perch.  

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Nice catch,  I second the raffle prize idea.  Is that a reel in there too?  And what kind of fish is that in the third picture?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Found your Lure

Looks like a yella perch.  

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Nice catch,  I second the raffle prize idea.  Is that a reel in there too?  And what kind of fish is that in the third picture?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Oak Orchard - Dec 9th

Hi Everyone,

Been a while since I've posted here, but always appreciate the amazing insight from those on this forum.

Im heading up with some friends to fish Oak Orchard near Albion, NY, hoping to get into some steelhead, browns, and maybe a zombie or two haha!  Ive had mixed luck at the Salmon River the past 2 years, and am looking for a change of scenery, and to get away from the full-on salmon crowds and hopefully fewer snaggers.  

Any tips anyone could provide on the following items would be greatly appreciated:

1) locations and tactics - I have seen many videos of people bottom bouncing and indicator nymphing.  Any comments on preferred tactics, and tips on weight/setup would be great too.  SO far I have been unable to find if people are going down to 4x to get into fish here, or keeping things at 2-3x and hopefully keeping a few more on the line.

2) flies - I have been tying egg patterns in sizes 10-14, mayflies and caddis in size 14, and black and brown stoneflies in size 12.  Any advice on specific patterns, colors, or comments on whether I am tying the right bugs would be great!  (I am the one tying flies for the three of us...I'm feeling the pressure and hope these flies work for us!)

3) lodging - we are looking for a place to stay (on the cheaper side) that is fisherman friendly.  Doing some research as well, however all pointers are helpful :)

Thanks again guys and sending tight lines all around!

- Miguel 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Found your Lure

Nice catch,  I second the raffle prize idea.  Is that a reel in there too?  And what kind of fish is that in the third picture?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

Brian,

Welcome to the group!

I would agree with Terry about the 6wt. It seems to be the perfect shad and smallmouth rod for the river. However , this past spring I started targeting some larger striped bass on the Potomac; big  tackle was necessary. I second Yambag's notion about the 8wt; it's a very versatile rod to have .

Two handed fly rods are another great resource for the river. They are fun and easy to cast long distances. I find that Spey fishing, although sometimes misunderstood and even criticized , is a different experience altogether. Some of our members teach free single and two handed casting lessons on the weekends at Fletchers Boathouse.

Art

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Wait a minute.... :)

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From: Carl Z. Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 19:11 To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com Reply To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

My favorite is a 6ft light action spinning rod.  Spoons and darts seem to get down faster and stay down longer than even T-14 line.  And to be honest, once your chucking T-14 I'm not sure it's fly fishing.  You could probably club them to death with that much weight. 

Carl

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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Terry C <flycstrva56@gmail.com> wrote:

I have fished a 6 wt for the past 30 yrs  perfect size shad rod In my opinion.  A must is a 250 gr depth charge line.   Its all about getting in the zone.  Once you find it " Look Out".  I have spent numerous days catching fish after fish and the boat next to me very few because they were using a floating line of a 10-15 ft sing tip.   

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 8:15:07 AM UTC-5, Brian Cohen wrote:

Hi there TPFRs - new fly fisherman here.  I've spent the summer trying to figure things out with my 6-weight, and am now thinking ahead to the spring.  Will a 6-weight get the job done for shad, or do I need to add a new rod (7-weight? 8-weight?) to my collection?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

Orvis had a rod donation event this year. People Could bring in there old equipment that they don't use anymore ,and have it donated to various organizations like the Boy Scouts, or Project Healing waters.

I was so surprised to see how many fiber glass rods were donated ,and good ones to. I guess didn't realize how many people preferred graphite technology. 

Art

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Wait a minute.... :)

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From: Carl Z. Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 19:11 To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com Reply To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

My favorite is a 6ft light action spinning rod.  Spoons and darts seem to get down faster and stay down longer than even T-14 line.  And to be honest, once your chucking T-14 I'm not sure it's fly fishing.  You could probably club them to death with that much weight. 

Carl

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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Terry C <flycstrva56@gmail.com> wrote:

I have fished a 6 wt for the past 30 yrs  perfect size shad rod In my opinion.  A must is a 250 gr depth charge line.   Its all about getting in the zone.  Once you find it " Look Out".  I have spent numerous days catching fish after fish and the boat next to me very few because they were using a floating line of a 10-15 ft sing tip.   

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 8:15:07 AM UTC-5, Brian Cohen wrote:

Hi there TPFRs - new fly fisherman here.  I've spent the summer trying to figure things out with my 6-weight, and am now thinking ahead to the spring.  Will a 6-weight get the job done for shad, or do I need to add a new rod (7-weight? 8-weight?) to my collection?

Thanks,

Brian

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

Wait a minute.... :)

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From: Carl Z. Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 19:11 To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com Reply To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

My favorite is a 6ft light action spinning rod.  Spoons and darts seem to get down faster and stay down longer than even T-14 line.  And to be honest, once your chucking T-14 I'm not sure it's fly fishing.  You could probably club them to death with that much weight. 

Carl

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I have fished a 6 wt for the past 30 yrs  perfect size shad rod In my opinion.  A must is a 250 gr depth charge line.   Its all about getting in the zone.  Once you find it " Look Out".  I have spent numerous days catching fish after fish and the boat next to me very few because they were using a floating line of a 10-15 ft sing tip.   

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 8:15:07 AM UTC-5, Brian Cohen wrote:

Hi there TPFRs - new fly fisherman here.  I've spent the summer trying to figure things out with my 6-weight, and am now thinking ahead to the spring.  Will a 6-weight get the job done for shad, or do I need to add a new rod (7-weight? 8-weight?) to my collection?

Thanks,

Brian

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

My favorite is a 6ft light action spinning rod.  Spoons and darts seem to get down faster and stay down longer than even T-14 line.  And to be honest, once your chucking T-14 I'm not sure it's fly fishing.  You could probably club them to death with that much weight. 

Carl

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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Terry C <flycstrva56@gmail.com> wrote:

I have fished a 6 wt for the past 30 yrs  perfect size shad rod In my opinion.  A must is a 250 gr depth charge line.   Its all about getting in the zone.  Once you find it " Look Out".  I have spent numerous days catching fish after fish and the boat next to me very few because they were using a floating line of a 10-15 ft sing tip.   

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 8:15:07 AM UTC-5, Brian Cohen wrote:

Hi there TPFRs - new fly fisherman here.  I've spent the summer trying to figure things out with my 6-weight, and am now thinking ahead to the spring.  Will a 6-weight get the job done for shad, or do I need to add a new rod (7-weight? 8-weight?) to my collection?

Thanks,

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fly Fishing Show Jan 28th

I just booked a room with 2 beds  for the Somerset NJ Fly fishing show on 1/28.  Plan on leaving early( 5:00 am)  Saturday morning and returning Sunday around 6:00 pm.  Anyone interested in splitting coast of room and gas let me know.   thanks

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What kind of setup for the Shad run at Fletchers?

I have fished a 6 wt for the past 30 yrs  perfect size shad rod In my opinion.  A must is a 250 gr depth charge line.   Its all about getting in the zone.  Once you find it " Look Out".  I have spent numerous days catching fish after fish and the boat next to me very few because they were using a floating line of a 10-15 ft sing tip.   

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Hi there TPFRs - new fly fisherman here.  I've spent the summer trying to figure things out with my 6-weight, and am now thinking ahead to the spring.  Will a 6-weight get the job done for shad, or do I need to add a new rod (7-weight? 8-weight?) to my collection?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Found your Lure

If don't want them (and don't want to give them tt me personally har-har-har) they'd make a great raffle prize at a beer tie.

Mark

On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 7:58:16 AM UTC-5, Tom Somers wrote:

Got hung up and didn't want to lose the fly, so ripped this mess out of the bottom.  Good news is I saved the fly and caught a few more with it.  If you lost a lure, let me know...

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Carry rods on a plane

Id like to report that Bluegrass Parkway airport and regan did no cuase any issues.  Nor did Delta.  One of the flight attendants actually took my rods for me.  And at the end of the flight asked how i liked my Syndicate rod as she had one in the mail headed to her house.  First time ive had a girl offer her number, maybe i need to carry rods around more often. haha.  The things that happen on planes.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:48 AM, namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

Many moons ago, circa 1984, during a a few months between jobs, I drove for a livery service in NJ. One of my "regulars" was a heavy hitter at an Exxon R&D facility.  I remember picking him and his family up at Newark one evening to take them home after their trip to Atlanta. They recounted to me that when their daughter's carry-on went through the scanner at Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta it set off all sorts of alarms and screams of "There's a baby in the bag! There's a baby in the bag!" 

Upon closer examination it was determined that the "baby" was a Cabbage Patch doll recently purchased at Bablyland General Hospital in Georgia. I can only imagine what might transpire at an airport nowadays.

Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Found your Lure

Got hung up and didn't want to lose the fly, so ripped this mess out of the bottom.  Good news is I saved the fly and caught a few more with it.  If you lost a lure, let me know...

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