Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Howcomzit #4 -- "do it all" flies suck

Now I have caught many fish on a small streamer with a tinsel body and fox squirrel wing -- which is quite similar to the "streamer" picket pin.  No doubt it works fine. 

I would probably use dry fly hackle for flotation too if I thought I'd mostly be fishing it on small streams.  I have some other random orangish-brown hackles from this mean rooster my brother-in-law shot a few years ago out of his chicken coop.  They're webby though. 

Gene

On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:50:40 AM UTC-5, Gs Feder wrote:

Gene --

To your point, I've seen the picket pin tied both with a peacock herl body and a tinsel body.  I'm planning to go with brown hackle tail, herl, body gray squirrel wing, and palmered brown dry fly hackle for floatation.  That's how Alan Petrucci of Small Stream Reflections does it.  

Here's a tutorial with a tinsel body, which would be more of a streamer, obviously.  http://www.utahsflycorner.com/2012/07/picket-pin-tutorial.html  

I'd attach photos, but I'm at work and can't upload anything to the Interwebs.  

Cheers,

-- Greg


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On Tue, 2/16/16, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Howcomzit #4 -- "do it all" flies suck
 To: "Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders" <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 2:11 PM
 
 Add
 -- if there's one person who would love to love these
 things, it's me.  I see picket pins tied as dries,
 wets, and streamers by a lot of people. 
 I guess I've found that
 similar flies to the picket pin, tied slightly
 differently, seem to work better at each task:
 1.  Herl soft hackle - wet
 2.  Griffith's gnat - dry
 3.  Squirrel bucktail with tinsel body - streamer
 Question -- do you use brown dry fly
 hackle to palmer, or some generic feather with a lot of
 web?
 
 On Tuesday,
 February 16, 2016 at 2:04:08 PM UTC-5, TurbineBlade
 wrote:Greg -- Not that squirrel tails are
 prohibitively expensive by any means, but it you want a grey
 and/or fox squirrel tail just drop by sometime.  I have a
 bag of tails from each species (fresh from Missouri) on my
 back deck.  it would take me years to use a single tail,
 and I have enough now for 6 generations of fly fisherman to
 use. 
 Gene
 
 On Tuesday, February 16, 2016
 at 1:20:23 PM UTC-5, Gs Feder wrote:http://smallstreamreflections.
 blogspot.com/
 
 Cheers, 
 --
 Greg
 Sent from
 my iPhone
 On Feb 16, 2016,
 at 1:08 PM, GSFeder <gsf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
 The guy who blogs at SmallStreamReflections.com
 loves the picket pin and seems to have lots of success with
 it. I plan to tie some this winter and will let you know
 what I think. 
 
 Cheers, 
 --
 Greg
 Sent from
 my iPhone
 On Feb 16, 2016,
 at 12:57 PM, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 Hey -- You know those
 patterns that claim to be great fished in any conceivable
 way?  I mean patterns like the hornberg, picket pin,
 etc.?  I have an affinity for old stuff in general, but
 just can't come around to those things.  They don't
 float very well as a dry, they resist sinking for good use
 as a wet (due to palmered hackle and/or huge hunk of
 mallard feather), and don't exactly pull through the
 water very well use as a streamer.  I prefer my streamers
 not to spin around like a 1-legged duck when stripped in. 
 Not that I dislike 1-legged ducks.  There was a really cute
 one a buddy's lake house that couldn't manage a
 straight swimming line, but did pretty well with a
 "serrated" swim pattern that generally went in one
 direction (toward bread). 
 So while I enjoy looking at them
 ("dot it all" flies) and respect their
 "ancientness" similarly to way I respect an old
 abandoned lighthouse with invasive ivy growing up the side,
 I just can't make myself use them.  Should I just
 pretend to like them?  Maybe that's what it is--  
 Everyone is just pretending! 
 Gene ("Howcomzit")
 TB
 
 
 
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