Friday, October 23, 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: New to Gravelly Point

A full sink line will get you caught up on the bottom repeatedly.  Even at high tide, the water isn't that deep and I don't think you need to be on the bottom anyway. 
 
While it is apparently illegal to wade, I have never had anyone say anything.  The bottom is hard and as long as you don't wade too far down, it is an easy place to wade.  You shouldn't be standing in the current and the water close to shore is slack.  I honestly can't imagine trying to fish there without wading, so if it isn't something you want to do (for either safety or legal reasons), I would recommend fishing somewhere else.  I have hooked alot of fish (particularly the bigger ones), closer to the far bank (still in the current) so figuring a way to get it out there is something you probably want to do.  Being lefty I can get a back cast off, but I imagine that is why some guys like to spey cast.    I'm not sure if your typical roll cast will get it out there.  But like someone said, all you really need to do is get it into the current which is a relatively short cast. 
 
Thing with gravelly is sometimes the fish just aren't there.  Everything can be lined up to what you think is right and the fish just won't be there.  My best day this year was back in early august well before I expected the fishing to be picking up there.  I got six stripers from 16-19 inches in about a half hour.  I have had multiple days that I thought would be good where I have gotten nothing. 
 

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 12:00:44 PM UTC-4, Matthew Longley wrote:
I've caught fish on poppers in warmer temps, but not by the outflow. If there is still vegetation along the shore closer to the dock, I'd try there.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Andrew LaVigne <andrewr...@gmail.com> wrote:
I had the same idea, and was down there this morning from 6:30-8:15. Saw a few surface splashes, out in the middle of the channel from the boat dock, and right near the outflow something jumped out of the water and landed in a manner that convinced me people were hucking cinderblocks from the bike path.

I won't call it a wasted morning - decent recon, and it was nice out, but I didn't have a single strike. I tried a couple different sizes of clouser, and one bigass half&half, using a sinking leader and swinging it in the current downstream. I didn't go with my full sink line, think that might have been the ticket, but then again, I have no clue. There were lots of shad fry jumping around, guessing that might be the baitfish of choice right now. 

IF you were to wade, there is hard bottom, relatively shallow right next to the outflow. It would THEORETICALLY be easy to put a roll cast right handed into the outflow (or cast left handed). Otherwise, a HYPOTHETICAL wader might have trouble getting too far out, as it gets chest-deep with weed beds in some spots.

There's a sign that says no fishing from the dock. But I could see someone POSSIBLY not seeing it and wandering on out to make some casts. 

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 10:13:43 AM UTC-4, Jim White wrote:
Good morning,
 
Over the past several months I've read through every post that mentions Gravelly Point and have been itching to fish there. The write-ups indicate best to be at the outflow from Roaches Run about two hours after the Alexandria high tide in dark/low light conditions. 7-8-9wt rods - two-handed best - clousers on sinking lines (or at least sink tips), cast quartering downstream and be ready for strikes on the swing.
 
Tomorrow morning (Saturday, Oct 24) look to be excellent conditions. Moon set at 0351, high tide in Alexandria at 0545, sun rise at 0727. Lines in the water at 0715 or so should be good.
 
A few weeks ago I did a recon run there and walked the area to learn where to fish. I was there at the high tide turn (middle of a bright sunny day) and was amazed at the water height and flow rate through the outflow from Roaches Run. It was clear to me that despite YouTube videos/online pics of that location I've seen I would not be wading at that location in that flow (also, I believe it is against the rules?). It was also clear to me that my single handed 9 ft 8 & 9 wt rods were going to be challenging to use against the overpass since it was backed by trees/brush. There is a partially clear area near the picnic benches where I think I can cast from but it seems a bit far from the water and landing fish will be an issue. There is also the pier which looked to be a good location to get started. However, signs prohibit fishing from the pier (the day I was there the pier was occupied with folks fishing bottom rigs for cat fish - so it may be that enforcement in this area is lax).
 
Roll cast at the outflow and hope for the best (my roll casts suck...)?
 
Fish from the pier?
 
How do I fish Gravelly Point?
 
-Jim

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