Tuesday, October 6, 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Looking to trade info/instruction/trips

Gene I'll throw a wrench at you good 



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On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Bryan Lanier <bryan.lanier@gmail.com> wrote:

Wrist "flick" not flip. Sorry.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Bryan Lanier <bryan.lanier@gmail.com> wrote:
Re: Wrist lock. I used to cast pretending that my wrist didn't exist. Dan helped me discover that a little wrist flip at the end of the back and forward casts actually helps. It makes the acceleration much more pronounced. My casting has greatly improved using this technique.

Bryan

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:23 AM, TurbineBlade <doublebclan@gmail.com> wrote:
We do have nice folks around here -- we're lucky in that.  Casting takes a while to learn for sure, but don't kill yourself over it.  Do a little at a time and you'll start to get muscle memory for how to smoothly apply power, etc.

Some folks use a LOT of wrist in their cast and they cast quite well, so don't assume that just because some website or book says "look your wrist into your cuff" (or something) that you're "doing it wrong".  All that really matters is what your loops look like going back and forward.  To me anyway it's all about the loops, and less about how you use your body to make the loops. 

People in the club can help a lot with this -- I'm not a certified casting instructor, I just pretend like it sometimes.  John B. helped me when I basically first picked up a fly rod and he does clinics on Sundays sometimes.  Someone maybe already said that...?  Sorry to repeat. 

Gene

On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-4, Pete Robbins wrote:
Thanks Gene. After a couple decades of bass-obsession, I've transitioned nicely into trying to do it all -- in recent years we've taken trips to the Amazon for peacock bass (2x), Venice for redfish, now Montana for trout. 

Frankly, the trout fishing was the most fun I'd had in a long time because I was so out of my element, not worried about living up to any preconceived standards. I had no idea whether the little cutthroats we caught were good fish or not, whether the equipment I was using was high quality or not, etc. Of course, my casting is miserable -- I have a tendency to try to overpower things and to flex my wrist on the cast, and I'm unaware of much of the terminology. At the same time, as you implied, past fishing experience was a benefit in terms of reading current and playing fish. 

The best thing about this very short foray into this alien (to me) world is how nice everyone has been. All of the fly shops were very welcoming and eager to share their knowledge.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:03 AM, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember too that an important part of fishing is the trading of tips and stories about things that are extremely unlikely to have ever happened! 

Other tips for transitioning to fly fishing:

Indicators are actually bobbers
Woolly buggers are actually marabou jigs, only they weigh a little less (I tie them on jigheads now, so mine are heavy)
Clouser minnows (as tied by most people) are essentially bucktail jigs
A popper is a popper
Flies with spinners do exist, but they're ridiculously hard to cast in the larger sizes......stick with UL spin tackle for "mechanical" lures IMO

If you can put lures into the right place and you know how to work them the way fish like, you'll have no problems using fly tackle to catch fish right away.  I liked UL spin tackle and tube jigs, and working small flies was very similar to me when I started.  It's the casting you'll have to work on a bit to get good consistency doing. 

I feel like you can do things with a lure/fly with a fly rod that are more "fishy" than what you can do with spin/bait tackle, but that's just my opinion. 

Then if you venture more into "trout fishing", you'll get into where the 2 tackle types seem to diverge a lot more.....with slack line presentations, mending a drift, roll casting to keep a dry from getting wet, etc. 

Trout fishing with fly tackle is wonderful, and you can also catch a lot of other species too.  I suggest you do it all!  ;)

Gene


On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 8:41:48 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
Unfortunately there are no fly shops downtown either. Come to the Beer Tie on Monday if you can. You'll at least get to put faces to the names here. And you'll be able to get an earful about fly fishing for other species in addition to trout.
 
Mark

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 11:43:21 AM UTC-4, Pete Robbins wrote:
Unfortunately I'll be downtown Tuesday and Wednesday.

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