Monday, March 31, 2014

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone venture on to the Potomac this weekend?

I was out Saturday morning at Fletcher's. Picked up a shad from the rocks. It looked like something took a chunk out of its gill cover. Never seen that kind of damage before. Tied into a nice fish up by the waterfall. Not sure what it was, but it was a pretty even match for an 8 weight with a 13lb leader. I'm thinking it could have been a striper. I did come away from the encounter with a silver scale on my lead fly (which was about 24" away from the dropper), and the fight was similar to stripers I picked up last year (fast, short runs followed by bulldogging in the current).

Not a bad way to kick off the spring season.

There are definitely fish out there hitting flies, and I imagine things should start picking up before too long.

Also, Yambag, I fish a heavy sinking line and feel your pain. Losing flies is part of the game of fishing that area from the shore. You can start to minimize losses once you figure out the structure of the bottom a little better (checking things out with polarized glasses at low tide and trial and error with different drifts), but if you're not snagging up every once in a while, you're probably not fishing where the fish are. Not sure if this will help at all, but keeping a little tension on the line (and trying to keep the line relatively straight) during the entire drift, just enough so you can feel as your fly ticks over rocks or when your line hangs up a little, can keep you from getting hung up too often. Sometimes you can pop the flies or line out by lifting the rod tip before everything gets deep into the snag, and you can even continue the drift/swing from there (plus you're more likely to notice light bites). Fishing from a boat also definitely helps in minimizing lost flies.

Ben


On Monday, March 31, 2014 11:32:51 AM UTC-4, William Steinman wrote:
Howdy all,

I was out of town for the weekend, but I'm chomping at the bit -- did anyone venture on to the river in search of shad?  I realize the water level was high and temperatures cold, but I know there are many brave and impatient souls among us.

Thanks!

B.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone venture on to the Potomac this weekend?

I fished from the rocks on Saturday and ended up with 3 medium-sized LMB and 0 shad. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone venture on to the Potomac this weekend?

Impatient is right!  I was at Fletcher's all day Saturday, lots of other boats in the water as well as people fishing from shore.  I fished through the morning with no luck, but by the afternoon I found a small school and caught about 10 Hickory Shad very quickly, had several others that spit the fly before I could get them to the boat.  I've never caught shad before, so it was awesome to find them.  Even with the rain it was a great day on the water.  Can't wait for the coming weeks!

Paul


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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone venture on to the Potomac this weekend?

I went out on saturday for a bit around the end of low tide.  Water was low then as it was before the rain really hit.  I didn't catch anything, thought I might have had a couple bumps.  Heard reports of a few fish being caught but nothing great yet.   I didn't bother getting a boat and just fished a couple spots from shore upstream of fletchers.  This was my first time fishing a full sinking line and I struggled with losing flies. 
 

On Monday, March 31, 2014 11:32:51 AM UTC-4, William Steinman wrote:
Howdy all,

I was out of town for the weekend, but I'm chomping at the bit -- did anyone venture on to the river in search of shad?  I realize the water level was high and temperatures cold, but I know there are many brave and impatient souls among us.

Thanks!

B.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone venture on to the Potomac this weekend?

I was out at the Chain Bridge (DC side) on 3/29/14 from about 9-11 AM. I was with another fishermen and neither of us had any hits or flashes (skunked!). The current was very strong and the water was high. I think the fish are still sitting deep but things should be changing with the warmer weather this week. I know I am chomping at the bits for the run to start!

- Jeremy

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I was out of town for the weekend, but I'm chomping at the bit -- did anyone venture on to the river in search of shad?  I realize the water level was high and temperatures cold, but I know there are many brave and impatient souls among us.

Thanks!

B.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anyone venture on to the Potomac this weekend?

Howdy all,

I was out of town for the weekend, but I'm chomping at the bit -- did anyone venture on to the river in search of shad?  I realize the water level was high and temperatures cold, but I know there are many brave and impatient souls among us.

Thanks!

B.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shenandoah backpacking

I always wondered about Dolly Sods -- we have friends who backpack there ALL the time and said there's a stream, but I didn't know if it was fishable.  

You might try hitting the streams closer to the headwaters along Skyline -- I've had at least one good trip immediately following a hard rain and posted a report about it last fall.  We just purchased the 1-year pass for the park, so I'm planning on living along the SNP this season and really getting some time in on those streams.  I figure if I have a heart attack, at least I'm in a place where there's no chance of quick medical attention!  

Actually, there's an inverse relationship between reasonable access to a defibrillator and good fishing.  On the upper St. Mary's, I imagine I'd just want Beth to roll me into the woods a bit.  

Gene

On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:43:36 AM UTC-4, Dave J wrote:
Definitely not too cold. I've caught brookies in SNP on dry flies in January and February the past couple winters, on warmer days. This week should be good!

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:48:42 AM UTC-4, Charles.Tapp wrote:
It's not too cold. Fish while the water is high. I was out last weekend in that vicinity, and caught fish all day on dries and bigger ones on the dropper.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shenandoah backpacking


On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Dave J <juther@gmail.com> wrote:

Definitely not too cold. I've caught brookies in SNP on dry flies in January and February the past couple winters, on warmer days. This week should be good!

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:48:42 AM UTC-4, Charles.Tapp wrote:
It's not too cold. Fish while the water is high. I was out last weekend in that vicinity, and caught fish all day on dries and bigger ones on the dropper.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shenandoah backpacking

Definitely not too cold. I've caught brookies in SNP on dry flies in January and February the past couple winters, on warmer days. This week should be good!

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:48:42 AM UTC-4, Charles.Tapp wrote:
It's not too cold. Fish while the water is high. I was out last weekend in that vicinity, and caught fish all day on dries and bigger ones on the dropper.

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Sunday, March 30, 2014

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shenandoah backpacking

It's not too cold. Fish while the water is high. I was out last weekend in that vicinity, and caught fish all day on dries and bigger ones on the dropper.

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Saturday, March 29, 2014

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Have boat, want to fish

I recently moved my skiff into the city and am looking to fish as much as possible this season.  

I'm new to fishing, fly and spinning, in this part of the Potomac from a boat.  

If you'd like to go out and fish, the boat is comfortable for two, reasonable for three.  Let's go fishing.  I'll get the gas, you bring the local knowledge/beer at the marina.  

Weekends or after work are usually good for me, especially if the weather is good.  

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Environmental impact of River Herring

https://www.facebook.com/ColbyEnvironmentalStudies/posts/280117582151809

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} ATTN: Amazon Prime Members

Hey folks I dunno if this is appropriate or not, if not mods please remove.
Amazon recently started Amazon Smile where a portion of your order payment goes to a charity of your choice.
I set mine up to go to Project Healing Waters; Trout Unlimited is also a choice you just need to type them in rather than select from the list they have.
The prices of items appear unchanged between smile & the normal site.
Just wanted to pass the info along.
smile.amazon.com 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shenandoah backpacking

Don't want to dampen your spirits, but will the fish be awake yet given this long cold winter?  

Jeremy's Run is a well known stream but since you have to hike a while to get to it, it doesn't get as much pressure.  It can be great in spring when the water's up higher,  but I normally fish it a bit later to give the water time to warm up.  I'm assuming many of the tribs are dumping in near freezing water right now.  

 There's a couple other places I go, but not normally until the first week in May, and since I moved to MD its a bit more of a drive.  

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Canal Road is fixed

Amen.


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> Thank you Lord. After five years at a desk job that kept me down to only a handful of days at Fletcher's per shad run this is going to be a 20 day spring for me at least. Having Canal Rd blocked would have crushed me.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Canal Road is fixed

Thank you Lord. After five years at a desk job that kept me down to only a handful of days at Fletcher's per shad run this is going to be a 20 day spring for me at least. Having Canal Rd blocked would have crushed me.

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Friday, March 28, 2014

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: A new low or just reached the next level, that's to be decided.

Figure on both.

Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Next Time You Nedd an Excuse

Thumbs up.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Canal Road Closed Due to Structural Concerns | NBC4 Washington

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Canal-Road-Closed-Due-to-Structural-Concerns-252913941.html


Bob Smith


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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} FYI Canal Road at Reservoir road work

They are in the process of figuring it out. It's like a sinkhole that would not open.  Best to Google DOT updates or news for better updates.  You're not missing much on the river.....brrrrr


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Richard Farino <richard@urbanangler.com> wrote:
Which direction is the closure?  Can people get into the Fletcher’s ramp at all?


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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} FYI Canal Road at Reservoir road work

Heads up to all planning on access to the river at Fletcher's.  Canal Road at Reservoir closures for emergency work are being planned at the time of this post. 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} FYI Canal Road at Reservoir road work

I just googled it. The road looks to be sinking on the westbound side of Canal Rd right in front of the entrance to Fletcher's. This doesn't look good. Engineers are "very concerned with the structural integrity of the road". This doesn't sound good. If the road is considered unsafe it will be blocked off so what neighborhood can I park in to hike down to fletchers?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} FYI Canal Road at Reservoir road work

Which direction is the closure?  Can people get into the Fletcher’s ramp at all?


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Heads up to all planning on access to the river at Fletcher's.  Canal Road at Reservoir closures for emergency work are being planned at the time of this post. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} FYI Canal Road at Reservoir road work

Oh joy. There were a lot of hard hats running around the upper parking lot this morning.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} FYI Canal Road at Reservoir road work

Heads up to all planning on access to the river at Fletcher's.  Canal Road at Reservoir closures for emergency work are being planned at the time of this post. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Next Time You Nedd an Excuse


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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Line Maintenance

I don't know anything about the Access lines, but I'm sure plenty on here use them.

Personally, I typically just keep the warm water line on a plastic spool and swap lines if I'm heading south. The cold-water WFF I have seems to have a much wider temperature range than the warm water line (SA Sharkwave GPX and an old model-unknown Rio, respectively). I would imagine that something with a braided core might have an even better/wider temp range (SA Sharkwave Saltwater, for example) but I can't say for sure. 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Line Maintenance

It's the Orvis Access 8 wt fly line.  I didn't know how big an impact the temperature had - but that makes sense.  I've been using it through the winter to hang a nymph below a strike indicator at 4MR when I'm going after carp.  I find I lose a lot less flies than when I use a sinking line there.

So it sounds like this is just something I'll have to deal with in the winter.  Am I damaging the line at all or is it just something to get used to?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Line Maintenance

Rich nailed it. If the line memory is really, really bad in cool to cold weather, you probably have a warm water/tropical line. Unfortunately for us consumers, the technology isn't there yet to have a line that will work well for cold water fish like striper and trout/salmon/steelhead while also being a good fit for going after bonefish, snook, tarpon, redfish, etc. Your sinking line, as many are, is probably made for cooler water temperatures so it works well here (and especially now) but will become limp, prone to tangles, and poor for shooting if used in Florida or points south. 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Line Maintenance

Paul,

What line are you using, and where are you using it/what are you using it for?


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From: Paul Kalajainen <paulkalajainen@gmail.com>
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Date: Friday, March 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Line Maintenance

Question about fly line care: My floating line has a lot of "memory" you could say.  Each time I use it it comes off the reel very stiff and holds some serious coils rather than straightening out.  I find I have to stretch it by hand to get it to straighten out at all.

Is there a way to avoid this?  Or a product that will help keep it "softer"?  It doesn't happen with my sinking line, just the floating - why is that?

Thanks,

Paul

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Line Maintenance

Question about fly line care: My floating line has a lot of "memory" you could say.  Each time I use it it comes off the reel very stiff and holds some serious coils rather than straightening out.  I find I have to stretch it by hand to get it to straighten out at all.

Is there a way to avoid this?  Or a product that will help keep it "softer"?  It doesn't happen with my sinking line, just the floating - why is that?

Thanks,

Paul

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Thursday, March 27, 2014

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shenandoah backpacking

I'm brand new to fly fishing, but I'm down for tagging along with someone more experience to learn.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re:

Haven't seen a darn thing, yet, and I've been checking as frequently as I remember.  Looking at their info page (http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/shadcam/viewing-window.asp), it almost seems like it might be pointed at the "floor" - if that's even possible?

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:25:17 AM UTC-4, Danny Barrett wrote:
Not that the shad cam tells all.  But has anyone seen any life in it?  I haven't even seen a eel all week.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is it spring yet???

I'm still planning to go.  My wife works all day so it'd be a shame not to spend the free time fishing!  I'm just gonna grab a rain coat and hope for the best.

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:45:36 AM UTC-4, Patrick Kearns wrote:
The weather for Saturday is starting to look lousy (rain all afternoon into evening - an inch plus).  Is anyone still thinking giving it a shot at Fletcher's?

I'm thinking I may still try the morning - Friday should be warm, so hopefully the water temp will get up where we want it, and the weather moving in should only help, until it actually gets here.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is it spring yet???

The weather for Saturday is starting to look lousy (rain all afternoon into evening - an inch plus). Is anyone still thinking giving it a shot at Fletcher's?

I'm thinking I may still try the morning - Friday should be warm, so hopefully the water temp will get up where we want it, and the weather moving in should only help, until it actually gets here.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shenandoah backpacking

fair enough.  good luck on which ever stream you pick.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Brendan <brendanlilly@gmail.com> wrote:
Dan, that's why i always bring along some bartles & james.... 

slightly more serious... without recommending particular streams, the way i approach this is looking up local/regional backpacking websites for treks. usually they include pretty good info/maps/pics of views/streams/campsites. then pull the topo maps for a better overview and also check out flickr for additional photos of the area/stream. general rule is if there's a decent flow and it's either in the park or protected land, you're going to find a fishable population of wild trout. only real exception to this i can think of within 3.5 hrs is dolly sods, where the acidity has killed off most wild fish. 

Wish i could go, spring fishing should be in full swing by then...  good luck!  



On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:57:31 AM UTC-4, Danny Barrett wrote:
If you do white oak, I highly suggest going before it turns to swim-able weather. I was up there last year and these 4 high school girls in bikinis just jumped it and didn't even seem to realize I was fishing and had sharp hooks.



On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Justin Schiavone <justin.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey is anyone interested in backpacking somewhere into Shenandoah for some trout fishing? I was thinking of going Saturday April fifth, but I am open to go most weekends.  I have some streams in mind but I'm definitely open to input. (I was thinking white oak, rose, or rapidan.)

 Also, If overnighting is too much then maybe a day trip. I just like the idea of having a fishing buddy up there for x number of reasons.

It may be a good idea to meet up before hand- for both logistics and safety so feel free to email me or give me a buzz.

Thanks

Justin
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Man in kayak hooks 11-foot hammerhead shark, gets towed for 12 miles


gonna need a bigger boat... 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shenandoah backpacking

Dan, that's why i always bring along some bartles & james.... 

slightly more serious... without recommending particular streams, the way i approach this is looking up local/regional backpacking websites for treks. usually they include pretty good info/maps/pics of views/streams/campsites. then pull the topo maps for a better overview and also check out flickr for additional photos of the area/stream. general rule is if there's a decent flow and it's either in the park or protected land, you're going to find a fishable population of wild trout. only real exception to this i can think of within 3.5 hrs is dolly sods, where the acidity has killed off most wild fish. 

Wish i could go, spring fishing should be in full swing by then...  good luck!  



On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:57:31 AM UTC-4, Danny Barrett wrote:
If you do white oak, I highly suggest going before it turns to swim-able weather. I was up there last year and these 4 high school girls in bikinis just jumped it and didn't even seem to realize I was fishing and had sharp hooks.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
(540)-222-8064


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Justin Schiavone <justin.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey is anyone interested in backpacking somewhere into Shenandoah for some trout fishing? I was thinking of going Saturday April fifth, but I am open to go most weekends.  I have some streams in mind but I'm definitely open to input. (I was thinking white oak, rose, or rapidan.)

 Also, If overnighting is too much then maybe a day trip. I just like the idea of having a fishing buddy up there for x number of reasons.

It may be a good idea to meet up before hand- for both logistics and safety so feel free to email me or give me a buzz.

Thanks

Justin
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} A new low or just reached the next level, that's to be decided.

HA!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} St. Maarten report

Dave-

Replied directly to your gmail account.

John


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:50 AM, Dave Stephenson <dstephenson554@gmail.com> wrote:
John,

Great report. I am heading that way the first week of May. Heaviest rod in my arsenal is an 8 wt I used living in Hampton Roads. Am I under gunned?
Also, did you find a local shop down there to get supplies and license by any chance?

Dave

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shenandoah backpacking

If you do white oak, I highly suggest going before it turns to swim-able weather. I was up there last year and these 4 high school girls in bikinis just jumped it and didn't even seem to realize I was fishing and had sharp hooks.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
(540)-222-8064


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Justin Schiavone <justin.m.schiavone@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey is anyone interested in backpacking somewhere into Shenandoah for some trout fishing? I was thinking of going Saturday April fifth, but I am open to go most weekends.  I have some streams in mind but I'm definitely open to input. (I was thinking white oak, rose, or rapidan.)

 Also, If overnighting is too much then maybe a day trip. I just like the idea of having a fishing buddy up there for x number of reasons.

It may be a good idea to meet up before hand- for both logistics and safety so feel free to email me or give me a buzz.

Thanks

Justin
Justin.m.schiavone@gmail.com
724 433 9832

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shenandoah backpacking

Hey is anyone interested in backpacking somewhere into Shenandoah for some trout fishing? I was thinking of going Saturday April fifth, but I am open to go most weekends. I have some streams in mind but I'm definitely open to input. (I was thinking white oak, rose, or rapidan.)

Also, If overnighting is too much then maybe a day trip. I just like the idea of having a fishing buddy up there for x number of reasons.

It may be a good idea to meet up before hand- for both logistics and safety so feel free to email me or give me a buzz.

Thanks

Justin
Justin.m.schiavone@gmail.com
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