Sunday, March 31, 2013
Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Suggestions for a Fly Fishing Weekend Getaway for 2?
Allenberry "Resort" which includes a theater show. I can't claim any
knowledge of the lodging up there, but the fishing on the Yellow
Breeches is good year round.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Eric Y. <theericyoung@gmail.com> wrote:
> Homestead waters are good. But if your trip is more about the resort and
> fishing is just the icing on the cake (I've found this to be true when my
> own agrees to something like this), Primland is where it is at. My first job
> out of college, we used to get taken down there by a paving company for
> three days of pheasant hunting. Primland knocks the socks off the Homestead
> and the Greenbrier. FWIW, it is apparently a favorite spot of Perk Perkins.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:05:06 AM UTC-4, Alex Woods wrote:
>>
>> The Homestead has private water. It is catch and release only and I
>> suspect that beyond just stocking it they are actively putting food in
>> there. I have never seen so many fish in such a small amount of water. It's
>> a little trickle of a stream in dense forest, maybe three to five feet wide
>> with pools every thirty feet or so, and each pool has at least three hundred
>> trout in it. I'm exaggerating, but it did remind me of the story about the
>> Hudson before Europeans showed up, that you could walk across it on the
>> backs of the sturgeons. There is no need for waders, and you would do best
>> with a very short, light rod. I was fishing Tenkara there and ironically it
>> was almost impossible to get a good cast because of all the low branches.
>> Even doing slingshot casts, which I consider cheating, I would hit trees on
>> the wrong side of the pool. You're probably not doing Tenkara but if you are
>> bring your shortest line. Fun and challenging fishing. Also the Homestead is
>> a really nice place, great for a weekend getaway.
>>
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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 'Classic' Shad Flies
Love it! Thanks for sharing!
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 'Classic' Shad Flies
Had an older gentleman come into the shop looking for some 0x, so I asked him if he wanted some shad flies. "Those aren't shad flies," he said.
A few days later he came back with a box -- "Now here's some shad flies." They look like tiny salmon flies to me, but whatever. He said his dad grew up in New Hampshire and moved down here after the first world war. Apparently, back then it was major expedition to get back north for fishing, so anglers from New England adapted the techniques and tactics to whatever was around. The box was his dad's, back in the day.
He let me take a couple photos of the flies with my phone -- some of them were falling apart when I got them out of the box. I gather some of these patterns are a century or so old, but probably Tommy's Torpedoes or Snowhite's flies are way more effective. I thought they would be interesting for the more history/tradition-minded anglers -- sorry I'm just now getting them posted.
By far the best part of working in a fishing shop is older guys telling me how much better everything used to be.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 'Classic' Shad Flies
A few days later he came back with a box -- "Now here's some shad flies." They look like tiny salmon flies to me, but whatever. He said his dad grew up in New Hampshire and moved down here after the first world war. Apparently, back then it was major expedition to get back north for fishing, so anglers from New England adapted the techniques and tactics to whatever was around. The box was his dad's, back in the day.
He let me take a couple photos of the flies with my phone -- some of them were falling apart when I got them out of the box. I gather some of these patterns are a century or so old, but probably Tommy's Torpedoes or Snowhite's flies are way more effective. I thought they would be interesting for the more history/tradition-minded anglers -- sorry I'm just now getting them posted.
By far the best part of working in a fishing shop is older guys telling me how much better everything used to be.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:07:21 PM UTC-7, HeaveToo wrote:
I am wondering if anyone is going after Shad this weekend and, if so, how they did.--
I am also wondering if anyone is seeing any snakehead yet. They should start moving around soon. I am thinking about targeting them soon in the back of the Occoquan.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead
On Sunday, March 31, 2013 6:31:29 PM UTC-4, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:
Got a few between 1PM and 2PM - upstream from Fletcher's after giving a lesson today. The bite is definitely soft and the fight is pretty lethargic compared to what it will be once the water temp gets into the 50's. Fish were deep too. I fished an Intermediate Skagit head with 15' type 8 tip and counted it down 25 seconds into a seam. Short strips were good, though a bit slower tempo than normal.Happy Easter,Dan DavalaOn Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Sam Hauser <slhau...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have been out several times and it seems like the afternoon bite is the best bet right now. Gotten into em around 4 on a couple days but all the mornings I have tried left me skunked. Highly doubt there are any Americans yet
Sent from my iPadJust spent a couple hours at chain bridge and got skunked. There were several spin fisherman in the area that also got skunked. Lots of birds hunting.
On Mar 31, 2013 10:45 AM, "HeaveToo" <cpd...@hotmail.com> wrote:--Are the Americans in or are you just catching Hickory Shad?
I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days..
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead
I have been out several times and it seems like the afternoon bite is the best bet right now. Gotten into em around 4 on a couple days but all the mornings I have tried left me skunked. Highly doubt there are any Americans yet
Sent from my iPadJust spent a couple hours at chain bridge and got skunked. There were several spin fisherman in the area that also got skunked. Lots of birds hunting.
On Mar 31, 2013 10:45 AM, "HeaveToo" <cpd032@hotmail.com> wrote:--Are the Americans in or are you just catching Hickory Shad?
I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days..
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Very Large Hickory (note color of fly) Nice Fish Sandy!
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead
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Just spent a couple hours at chain bridge and got skunked. There were several spin fisherman in the area that also got skunked. Lots of birds hunting.
On Mar 31, 2013 10:45 AM, "HeaveToo" <cpd032@hotmail.com> wrote:--Are the Americans in or are you just catching Hickory Shad?
I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days..
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead
Just spent a couple hours at chain bridge and got skunked. There were several spin fisherman in the area that also got skunked. Lots of birds hunting.
Are the Americans in or are you just catching Hickory Shad?
I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days..
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: fishing in West Virginia
On Friday, March 29, 2013 3:26:30 PM UTC-4, Walter Ryan wrote:
Casey Peltier, for whom I occasionally tie flies, suggested I post these questions here. We will be in the Fayetteville, West Virginia area in the last part of April and early May. What are the fishing opportunities there? Are there horseback trail riding opportunities there? Thanks in advance and if any come to New Hampshire I will be glad to reciprocate.--
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead
I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days..
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead
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I went Friday for about 3 hours and caught 2. Water was cold and it was really windy.--
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Pictures and report - Current, MO (last post, I promise)
On Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:25:42 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
--Just a few pics -- we're glad to be home and really look forward to shad and local fishing. I have a new appreciation for rainbow trout, but I still think you can't beat bluegill ;).I won't rehash the same crap I posted in the other "current river" thread -- summary: weather was cold (but interesting), family/friends were excellent, wet fly swing was my #1 choice.Oh! BTW - I noticed something in MO now that I've been living here for 4.3 some odd years. If you live in Missouri and anyone not from Missouri makes a comment about the weather, you HAVE to say something like "Don't like the weather huh? Well, just wait!" I'm 100% serious. Thousands of years of Missouri genetics have all been put to the ultimate use of allowing your mastoids to form this exact statement. There's no other option -- and you can't fight it! I must have heard that at least 7 times when I was there.If you learn to say it really matter-of-factly and without drooling too much, the women just flock to you out there. It's "sick"!Take it easy TPFRs!
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Saturday, March 30, 2013
{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shad and Snakehead
I am also wondering if anyone is seeing any snakehead yet. They should start moving around soon. I am thinking about targeting them soon in the back of the Occoquan.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Dan Davala's Helpful Shad Links
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:19:14 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
Thanks, Dan!--
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Dan Davala's Helpful Shad Links
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Urban Lines got me thinking...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Dan Davala's Helpful Shad Links
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Friday, March 29, 2013
Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is it wrong...
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My daughter has own fish tank - with 40+ fishes. Is it wrong for me to test my little dry flies (size 22-24) in it? I am attempting to try it but......I don't have guts...
Richard
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Greg: Thanks, that's a breakthrough! Now I know what to do with the erstwhile dormitory fridge of my daughters now resting down in our basement. ;-)
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That's one more reason to have a separate fridge/freezer in the garage or basement -- for cold beverages and road pelts.
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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is it wrong...
My daughter has own fish tank - with 40+ fishes. Is it wrong for me to test my little dry flies (size 22-24) in it? I am attempting to try it but......I don't have guts...
Richard
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Greg: Thanks, that's a breakthrough! Now I know what to do with the erstwhile dormitory fridge of my daughters now resting down in our basement. ;-)
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That's one more reason to have a separate fridge/freezer in the garage or basement -- for cold beverages and road pelts.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: This is for Teenagers or Parents of Teenagers
Power bait is so easy it is boring. Requires zero skill. Period. I sincerely hope they are not promoting the use of it to young fisherman. You need to learn good fishing habits while you are young so you can stay interested and improve as you get older. I think things like power bait are part of the reason kids don't stick with fishing these days. There are depressingly few fisherman in the younger generations
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> Powerbait sucks in the sense that it is like cheating. If you need to fish to eat, it would be hard to beat powerbait in terms of productivity.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Urban Lines got me thinking...
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I can't impart much knowledge, but I did just build a 5wt switch over the winter with the primary purpose of swinging for shad and smallies. For me it's a tough balance on long rods when trying to keep them heavy enough to cast the bigger bass flies, yet light enough to keep it interesting once you get one on. I'll enjoy the new challenge figuring this one out.I also fish from an inflatable yak in the warmer temps. Some good locations to start in the tidal parts are Pohick Bay, Occoquan, and Belle Haven -- all easy put-ins. The bridges also seem to be popular spring and fall spots for stripers but I have yet to give it a shot. For shad, I don't really mess with the kayaks with the availability of the Fletcher's boats. It's much easier casting sinking lines from a stable rowboat platform rather than seated or kneeling in a kayak.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: This is for Teenagers or Parents of Teenagers
On Friday, March 29, 2013 8:24:12 AM UTC-4, Miles wrote:
Lucas is indeed a young person (not quite HS age?). He's come to Beer Tie a few times. But he doesn't need to attend the camp: he's already fished more places and species than I ever will. We have a corner of the Catch & Release board at the Orvis shop dedicated to his exploits. If he says Powerbait sucks, I believe him.--
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On Friday, March 29, 2013 2:04:56 AM UTC-4, Eric Y. wrote:Brendan: I'm not sure Lucas is the troll you think he is... A quick Google search of his username + "Washington DC" seems to indicate that Lucas indeed could attend this camp, if not this year, then next.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} On a shad dart this am
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