Wednesday, March 4, 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Bendy vs. Stiffy article

Interesting.  It is also funny how they explain away the tip bounce.   To reduce tip bounce on the glass rod you do have to change your stop.  Also you don't see the loops unroll at the end, which I would be interested in.   My experience is that it is easier to overload a slower rod that has more swing weight and throw a tailing loop.  FWIW, I have a Grayfite 8' 6/7 rod  (it was my first rod from around 1986) and it isn't slow, but it isn't a fast rod either. 
If you stop the video while the rod is under maximum load, you can see the difference in the flex profiles of the rod.  It isn't that great, probably because by shortening the sage by a foot, you are effectively slowing the rod down (putting more bend into the bottom half of the rod).

I would love to see the same casts where the caster is maximizing the quality of the slow rod cast.  That is slowing the cast down and dampening the stop so the slow rod  has the better loops. I know from experience that when casting a slow rod, you do have to change your stroke to get a nice cast.  The adjustments might not be as dramatic as I feel, but I'm sure they are there.

It's easy to find flaws, but it is an interesting demonstration and it demonstrates that "casting is casting".  Given his argument, everyone should be using 30 year old $20 rods.

Carl

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, TurbineBlade <doublebclan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dalton -- I appreciate the input.  I also don't know "models" of fly rods very well, and it seemed at least possible to me that the two rods may be "fast" and "moderate" vs. actually what (I consider) a true fast v. slow comparison.  This would also sort of stack things more in favor of the "one stroke" idea vs. them having an old bamboo, "wet fly action" rod or something compared to a fast rod.  

Gene 

On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 11:25:22 AM UTC-5, Dalton Terrell wrote:
Gene,

Thanks for posting this, that's a very interesting video. I don't think the article is saying that the loops produced by the two rods given the same stroke are identical, but rather they are very similar. Any FFF guy or gal worth their salt will tell you that you need a wider arc with a slow rod (to produce a straight line path of the rod tip) in comparison to a fast rod; however, I think this video proves that this is often overstated.

Dalton

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