Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} New Orleans advice

Hey Art, I don't have much intel on specific freshwater locations, but the canals hold carp and I'm sure bass. And alligators. I have also seen people fishing in City Park. I'm sure there's bass in there. And alligators. The guides might be able to nudge you in a freshwater direction if you so desire. I know at least a couple of them go after carp (on their own, not guiding) on blowout days in the marshes or if they don't have a client..

But, I assume you're staying in downtown New Orleans. In that case, your best alternative is to head on over to French 75 or Napolean House and enjoy a sazerac, then hit Mother's for a poboy. 

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 6:56 PM, 'Art Friedlander' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Heading for redfish in New Orleans.
Was wondering about alternatives if the weather in the marshes gets bad and trip gets canceled.

Is there any other fishing and guides in the area?  Bass, etc. that anyone can provide advice on?

Thanks,

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} New Orleans advice

Heading for redfish in New Orleans.
Was wondering about alternatives if the weather in the marshes gets bad and trip gets canceled.

Is there any other fishing and guides in the area? Bass, etc. that anyone can provide advice on?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone Need a Raft?

Dalton,

My apologies.  I'll move it over and delete the old one.  

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone Need a Raft?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Guided Trip Sept/Oct

Both guides look great and the schoolie action sounds like it would be great fun as a beginner.  It also sounds like there's a possibility for some fish busting bait on the surface.  You can't beat an explosion of water, so I'm all in.  Let's see what my dad thinks.  I'll be looking to book something soon, but will see if anybody else has other recommendations. 

Gregg

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Hi all, My dad wants to take a guided trip sometime in september/early October this year.  He is a god awful fly caster, but would like to dabble and fall back on spin if it's not working out.  I've been trying to get him to take an Orvis class, but his schedule and mine haven't aligned...and he wants company.  I know I could certainly use it too.  Anyway, we could do a smallie float on the Shenandoah or James, but we both are quite competent at finding them by ourselves.  He is interested in salt, but I am supremely unfamiliar with it, especially in the fall.  We would love to stick to VA, Southern Maryland, or the Outer Banks.  

Are there any recommendations for fish to seek out, and guides to put us on them?  

Thank you for the wealth of knowledge and the willingness to share.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone Need a Raft?

Not sure exactly how old it is.  I've had it for around 5 years or so.  I'm guessing 8-10?  The bar over the front holds the casting platform off the bottom of the raft.  There is a thigh brace that mounts to it as well.  It's a pretty solid setup, not rocky at all.  The casting platforms in the front and rear are key so you don't have to stand on the inflated floor.  Works great for solid footing.

Let me know if you need any other info.

Trevor

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How old is the actual raft?  And what is that bar over the bow?

Looks like a pretty rocking setup.  

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I have to part with my raft.  Here are the details: 

Star Raft with custom fishing frame. The raft is a 13 foot, self bailer and has casting platforms in the front and rear for anglers. Not used at all last year and only twice the year before, so I need it to go to a good home. I'm selling it complete with the oars, anchor, and anchor line. The Cataract Oars sell for about $450 and a comparable frame is $650. A new raft will run you over $3k without the frame, oars, or anchor/anchor line! I have it posted to Craigslist if you want to take a look.  I included a quick pic since I pulled it out today and cleaned it off.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Guided Trip Sept/Oct

It's my absolute favorite time of the year to fish the middle Chesapeake Bay!  And he won't need to cast far with a fly.  I use Gary Neitzey out of Kent Narrows: 410-937-8753.  It's only about an hour from DC.  Schoolie stripers will be the primary target.  You may still get some blues mixed in.  It's a great trip on fly or spin.

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Hi all, My dad wants to take a guided trip sometime in september/early October this year.  He is a god awful fly caster, but would like to dabble and fall back on spin if it's not working out.  I've been trying to get him to take an Orvis class, but his schedule and mine haven't aligned...and he wants company.  I know I could certainly use it too.  Anyway, we could do a smallie float on the Shenandoah or James, but we both are quite competent at finding them by ourselves.  He is interested in salt, but I am supremely unfamiliar with it, especially in the fall.  We would love to stick to VA, Southern Maryland, or the Outer Banks.  

Are there any recommendations for fish to seek out, and guides to put us on them?  

Thank you for the wealth of knowledge and the willingness to share.

Gregg

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone Need a Raft?

How old is the actual raft?  And what is that bar over the bow?

Looks like a pretty rocking setup.  

On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 4:41:53 PM UTC-4, Trevor wrote:

I have to part with my raft.  Here are the details: 

Star Raft with custom fishing frame. The raft is a 13 foot, self bailer and has casting platforms in the front and rear for anglers. Not used at all last year and only twice the year before, so I need it to go to a good home. I'm selling it complete with the oars, anchor, and anchor line. The Cataract Oars sell for about $450 and a comparable frame is $650. A new raft will run you over $3k without the frame, oars, or anchor/anchor line! I have it posted to Craigslist if you want to take a look.  I included a quick pic since I pulled it out today and cleaned it off.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Snakehead

Best of luck! Let us know how you do! I managed 1 bass and 1 catfish out of there yesterday. 

--Scott

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On May 30, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Trevor Ibsen <ibsento@gmail.com> wrote:

Great info.  Maybe I'll head up that way and give it a try.

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On May 29, 2017, at 21:28, Scott Stankus <sstankus@gmail.com> wrote:

They're thick in Roaches Run. I was there this morning and saw plenty. Heard of a few caught, too, but I wasn't so lucky. 

I did see a few breach completely out of the water, though. That was pretty cool!

--Scott

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On May 29, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Trevor <ibsento@gmail.com> wrote:

I've heard a couple rumors about them being up in the canal.  I've been meaning to head up there, but I hate fighting the traffic!  Maybe it's time for a day of carp and NSH.  Thanks for the info.

On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 9:25:35 AM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

They are up in the C&O canal up around Pennyfield lock.  I haven't been up there this year, but last fall I saw one as I was on a walk.

Good luck catching them, but the guys bass fishing do seem to catch them. 

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On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Trevor <ibs...@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone seen or targeted NSH yet this year?  If so, have you had any luck?  I'm still trying to find some snakehead to target and, as of yet, I haven't seen any in any of the tidal creeks on the MD side, to include Mattowoman.  Not sure where the majority of these guys hang out, but I guess I'll just have to put more time on the water to get into some.

Thanks for the info,

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone lose a rod in SNP?

I bet you anything that's my rod. Unfortunately I'm out of state for a couple weeks...I'll have to determine whether it's worth a trip out there in a couple of weeks.

On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 3:21:00 PM UTC-4, Andrew Sarcinello wrote:

I fear that as well Bob. Dalton let me know if it is Kyle's.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Guided Trip Sept/Oct

Hi all, My dad wants to take a guided trip sometime in september/early October this year.  He is a god awful fly caster, but would like to dabble and fall back on spin if it's not working out.  I've been trying to get him to take an Orvis class, but his schedule and mine haven't aligned...and he wants company.  I know I could certainly use it too.  Anyway, we could do a smallie float on the Shenandoah or James, but we both are quite competent at finding them by ourselves.  He is interested in salt, but I am supremely unfamiliar with it, especially in the fall.  We would love to stick to VA, Southern Maryland, or the Outer Banks.  

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Snakehead

Great info.  Maybe I'll head up that way and give it a try.

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On May 29, 2017, at 21:28, Scott Stankus <sstankus@gmail.com> wrote:

They're thick in Roaches Run. I was there this morning and saw plenty. Heard of a few caught, too, but I wasn't so lucky. 

I did see a few breach completely out of the water, though. That was pretty cool!

--Scott

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On May 29, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Trevor <ibsento@gmail.com> wrote:

I've heard a couple rumors about them being up in the canal.  I've been meaning to head up there, but I hate fighting the traffic!  Maybe it's time for a day of carp and NSH.  Thanks for the info.

On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 9:25:35 AM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

They are up in the C&O canal up around Pennyfield lock.  I haven't been up there this year, but last fall I saw one as I was on a walk.

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Carl

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Anyone seen or targeted NSH yet this year?  If so, have you had any luck?  I'm still trying to find some snakehead to target and, as of yet, I haven't seen any in any of the tidal creeks on the MD side, to include Mattowoman.  Not sure where the majority of these guys hang out, but I guess I'll just have to put more time on the water to get into some.

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Trevor

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Harper's Ferry Trip Recommendations?

Thanks for the help all! The Shenandoah and Potomac were too high to fish from rain, but it did make river rafting more fun! White Fly Outfitters was a great shop and picked up some tying materials.

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 1:30:47 PM UTC-4, William Hea wrote:

Hey all,

Long-time lurker. I'm taking my girlfriend camping at Harper's Ferry labor day weekend and would love to get some fishing in. I'll be flyfishing, she'll be spinning. Do you have a recommended spot for wading and going after smallmouth? Our campsite is the Harper's Ferry KOA in WV and would prefer to buy 1 fishing license for the weekend (only have a DC license).

Also, any fly/gear recommendations? I'm planning to bring:

• 6 wt for me (her spincast will be setup for flies)
• Floating line
• Poppers
• Clousers
• Woolly Buggers

If there's any non-fishing must do's in Harpers Ferry I'm all ears too. 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Snakehead

They're thick in Roaches Run. I was there this morning and saw plenty. Heard of a few caught, too, but I wasn't so lucky. 

I did see a few breach completely out of the water, though. That was pretty cool!

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I've heard a couple rumors about them being up in the canal.  I've been meaning to head up there, but I hate fighting the traffic!  Maybe it's time for a day of carp and NSH.  Thanks for the info.

On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 9:25:35 AM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

They are up in the C&O canal up around Pennyfield lock.  I haven't been up there this year, but last fall I saw one as I was on a walk.

Good luck catching them, but the guys bass fishing do seem to catch them. 

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Anyone seen or targeted NSH yet this year?  If so, have you had any luck?  I'm still trying to find some snakehead to target and, as of yet, I haven't seen any in any of the tidal creeks on the MD side, to include Mattowoman.  Not sure where the majority of these guys hang out, but I guess I'll just have to put more time on the water to get into some.

Thanks for the info,

Trevor

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin this Morning 5:30-7:45am

Hugh, what were you using? Hit it this AM with limited success on deceiver and clousers. Very high turbidity on inflow from Potomac.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anyone Need a Raft?

I have to part with my raft.  Here are the details: 

Star Raft with custom fishing frame. The raft is a 13 foot, self bailer and has casting platforms in the front and rear for anglers. Not used at all last year and only twice the year before, so I need it to go to a good home. I'm selling it complete with the oars, anchor, and anchor line. The Cataract Oars sell for about $450 and a comparable frame is $650. A new raft will run you over $3k without the frame, oars, or anchor/anchor line! I have it posted to Craigslist if you want to take a look.  I included a quick pic since I pulled it out today and cleaned it off.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Snakehead

I've heard a couple rumors about them being up in the canal.  I've been meaning to head up there, but I hate fighting the traffic!  Maybe it's time for a day of carp and NSH.  Thanks for the info.

On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 9:25:35 AM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

They are up in the C&O canal up around Pennyfield lock.  I haven't been up there this year, but last fall I saw one as I was on a walk.

Good luck catching them, but the guys bass fishing do seem to catch them. 

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On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Trevor <ibs...@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone seen or targeted NSH yet this year?  If so, have you had any luck?  I'm still trying to find some snakehead to target and, as of yet, I haven't seen any in any of the tidal creeks on the MD side, to include Mattowoman.  Not sure where the majority of these guys hang out, but I guess I'll just have to put more time on the water to get into some.

Thanks for the info,

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Snakehead

Thanks for the info.  I'll have to get the 'yak out and paddle around some more.  Maybe I'll head across the river to Belmont Bay.  Thanks again.

On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 9:16:51 AM UTC-4, HeaveToo wrote:

I am not an expert, by far, but I have caught 2 on the flyrod.  I caught them in special circumstances.

Lately I have been chasing them in Belmont Bay.  Specifically, Kane's Creek.  They like weeds, lots of weeds.  I heard of it as they really like having a roof over their head.  They also tend to be in shallow water.

The only way to access a lot of the water to fish for them is by boat.  I have also heard that their population is down due to harvesting them.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin this Morning 5:30-7:45am

My fishing buddy was using that pattern and didn't even have a strike.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Snakehead

I was out fishing with my son where Rock Creek meets the Potomac, and we saw one right behind Thompson's boat house.

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Carl Z. <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> wrote:

They are up in the C&O canal up around Pennyfield lock.  I haven't been up there this year, but last fall I saw one as I was on a walk.

Good luck catching them, but the guys bass fishing do seem to catch them. 

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On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Trevor <ibsento@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone seen or targeted NSH yet this year?  If so, have you had any luck?  I'm still trying to find some snakehead to target and, as of yet, I haven't seen any in any of the tidal creeks on the MD side, to include Mattowoman.  Not sure where the majority of these guys hang out, but I guess I'll just have to put more time on the water to get into some.

Thanks for the info,

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Snakehead

They are up in the C&O canal up around Pennyfield lock.  I haven't been up there this year, but last fall I saw one as I was on a walk.

Good luck catching them, but the guys bass fishing do seem to catch them. 

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Anyone seen or targeted NSH yet this year?  If so, have you had any luck?  I'm still trying to find some snakehead to target and, as of yet, I haven't seen any in any of the tidal creeks on the MD side, to include Mattowoman.  Not sure where the majority of these guys hang out, but I guess I'll just have to put more time on the water to get into some.

Thanks for the info,

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Snakehead

I am not an expert, by far, but I have caught 2 on the flyrod.  I caught them in special circumstances.

Lately I have been chasing them in Belmont Bay.  Specifically, Kane's Creek.  They like weeds, lots of weeds.  I heard of it as they really like having a roof over their head.  They also tend to be in shallow water.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Snakehead

Anyone seen or targeted NSH yet this year?  If so, have you had any luck?  I'm still trying to find some snakehead to target and, as of yet, I haven't seen any in any of the tidal creeks on the MD side, to include Mattowoman.  Not sure where the majority of these guys hang out, but I guess I'll just have to put more time on the water to get into some.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Anyone fish Freedom Lake over on Andrews AFB?

Collin,

In the cooler water seasons, the pickerel will hang out in the shallow water on the south end of the lake.  I'll run down at lunch periodically to wet a line before getting back to work. 

I saw your other post about the bass and I'm intrigued to see if I can entice them.  I was down there without a rod the other day and saw the larger bass cruising the east side.  Definitely have to give it a try.

Supposedly there are snakehead in there.  Outdoor Rec mentioned it when I asked about fishing the lake.  I've never seen anything gulping air though.  Maybe they just thought the pickerel were the same thing.

Trevor

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 2:46:57 PM UTC-4, tatu...@gmail.com wrote:

Have some business over there Saturday morning, was thinking of wetting my line.   Looks to be a standard pond-like lake with the normal panfish/bass present?

Cheers

Collin

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin this Morning 5:30-7:45am

Clouser Minnow fly pattern used?

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 12:10:52 PM UTC-4, Hugh Fike wrote:

Hit the tidal basin this morning. Lots of fish taking just underneath the surface to the east of the Jefferson Memorial along that side up to the bridge. Caught a 2lb large mouth.

Worked back towards the west side by the gates. Very active feeding near the bridge. Caught a schoolie striper probably 2lbs as well.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anyone lose a rod in SNP?

I fear that as well Bob. Dalton let me know if it is Kyle's.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} double hand rods in Potomac

Nice that book describes the run times in great detail by stream. It also gives you so excellent suggestions on we're to park and fish.

I spent most of my life fishing for steelhead in the Great Lakes. It's one of the easiest fish to fool and they fight like crazy!! 

Expect to see other anglers around. it's just that type of fishing environment. I'm alway laughing when people complain about pressure on steelhead streams. It's just like the shad run here, it's to be expected. Just embrace and have fun !

Be friendly and strike up conversation with with them. People are very quick to share there knowledge if your friendly.

Art

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On May 28, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Yang Chang <yangchang@gmail.com> wrote:

Purchased! 

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:54 AM, <arthur.noglak@gmail.com> wrote:

If your looking for spots purchase the Steelhead Guide by John Nagy. 

It's very informative and is considered the best literature on Erie Steelhead.

Art

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On May 27, 2017, at 10:47 PM, Richard Farino <rfarino@gmail.com> wrote:

Walnut is a zoo.  Try Elk, or 20 mile, or head into Ohio or the NY Erie tribs.

When we're open, I'll do a steelhead primer in the shop around September.

R

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I also caught steelhead in both Walnit and salmon river, but very limited experience. Walnut is easy to to get some actions but no casting. That is why I am thinking to explore other tribs.

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Richard Farino <rfarino@gmail.com> wrote:

If you've only fished Walnut Creek in Erie, and you STILL want to fish for steelhead, you're a better man than I.  If that was my only steel heading experience in Erie I'd never go back.

That said, I used to fish nothing but a 9' 6 or 7-weight with a floating line in Erie tribs.  I could still cast a marabou streamer pattern and swing, but I wouldn't need the longer length rod because I was casting overhead.

One year I wound up buying a Sage 7110-4 Z-Axis Switch.  I loaded it with a 350 Skagit body, and bought interchangeable tips.  Now I have a floating tip for bouncing egg patterns on smaller rivers, and I usually use a type 3 or type 5 tip on bigger rivers for swinging those same marabou spey patterns.  I also use it on the NB Potomac.

My next purchase will be a 4wt Winston Microspey.  I used it on the NB and it was a lot of fun.

So as Art mentioned, an 11' 7-weight is spot on.

Disclaimer – I don't use it on the Potomac.  Swinging flies is a waste of my time on this river, in my opinion.

R

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} double hand rods in Potomac

Thanks all for your kindly help! I will look for a 7wt 11' or 11'6" switch rod.

I have only fished Walnut creek in Erie twice in the fall and want to explore more steelhead tribs in both spring and fall. Can you give me some general information about what season and which trib to look for steelhead? Thanks again!

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:25 PM, 'Art Friedlander' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Two more cents.

I've been using a 12 1/2 foot 6 weight old Sage Graphite IV for many years for steelhead and on the Potomac.  Perfect for me, mainly casting overhead.

Another Art

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Yep those rivers and mabey one or two to the west I would agree. In fact if I'm just swinging I use a 13 7 with a skagit setup. But for versatility and single hand casting I like the 11 footer.

I would suggest going to a flyshop and putting some different rods in your hand. Give them the ol wiggle test

Art









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> I don't think 11'6 is too long for the Erie tribs, especially if you are fishing somewhere like the Catt.
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> I use an 11 ft 8wt on the salmon. But there are guys using 14 foot rods there.  I use a rage compact head with polyleaders for almost all of my great lakes tribs fishing with the exception of the lower Niagara where I use skagit heads and t-14 for the most part.
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