equity line of credit: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: For those Muskie fans out there

Tuesday, November 24, 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: For those Muskie fans out there

I like that story Rich! That's a potential record I can appreciate ;).

BTW I had never heard of this "Esopus" -- a google search reveals that this cat apparently killed his own father by mistake. Good read!

Gene

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 2:49:28 PM UTC-5, Richard Farino wrote:

If the rod is neutrally balanced right where your hand grips the rod, it becomes a better lever the closer the reel is to your hand.

The rod designers build the rods with the intent that the weight of the rod will balance well with a certain range of weights of a reel with line and backing at the point where your hand comfortably holds the grip, which becomes the fulcrum.

R

Richard Farino
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From: Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com>
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Date: Monday, November 23, 2015 at 2:25 PM
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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: For those Muskie fans out there

BTW -- While we're talking about butt extension and are completely off topic, anyone else hate up-locking reel seats? I've heard from rod builders that everything went that way because it's a better system, etc. My experience is that downlocking reel seats actually hold reels more securely -- I don't care what anyone says and feel like I spend enough time holding fly rods to hold this opinion. I've epoxied 2 uplockers now, and another one needs it.

Then again, I generally distrust "new" crap across the board. Usually it's a result of cheaper costs/labor in some way and not necessarily a better result.

Uplockers = reel dumpers.

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Carry on with whether the guy was cheating or not! I think it was a stuffed Muskie personally.

Gene

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 2:07:48 PM UTC-5, TurbineBlade wrote:
What is the IGFA definition of "spooled"? Does it count if the fish just takes all the fly line and rubs you off on a stump?

In that case, I may have some records that don't involve pastries...

Gene

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 2:01:21 PM UTC-5, Richard Farino wrote:
Jeff is right. It's definitely longer than 6 inches, but that's not a single handed rod. Muskie anglers use rods with an extended butt section due to the fact that making figure 8's at the boat is more effective when you can keep the rod tip down in the water. If the fly rises up too high in the water column, the fish sees the boat and it's game over. You could argue that the rod is a switch/2-handed rod, but again the center of the reel foot is more than 10 inches in length.

I'd also like to see what they used as far as leader. It's hard to tell from the video/stills but he was using a pretty long leader.

That said, it's definitely a Minnesota fly rod record, but alas, world record on fly it is not.

Also – I think IGFA should add a rule to state that the fish must be bought to net/hand/boat by reel only. Hooking a fish that stays alongside the boat and is immediately netted after stripping the line in once or twice doesn't sit well with me.

Richard Farino. IGFA member, and record holder of having the smallest brook trout ever to spool me on a 0-weight Sage fly rod in really fast water on the Esopus River in NY.

Richard Farino
Urban Angler VA | 108 N. Washington Street  2nd Floor | Alexandria, VA 22314
(703) 527-2524 | fax: (703) 527-3313 | richard@urbanangler.com

From: Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Yambag Nelson <northstreet...@gmail.com>
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Date: Monday, November 23, 2015 at 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: For those Muskie fans out there

Have you ever caught a fish on a spey rod? Much easier to land a fish than on a single in my opinion. Other than the logistics of grabbing it...

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-5, TurbineBlade wrote:
Looks very, very similar to how everyone here catches shad in the spring using sinking lines. I guess there are various rules when it comes to posting records. If it were me, I wouldn't care about an official record and just be forever happy I caught such a nice fish.

Long fly rods are already terrible rods for fighting and landing fish based upon simple leverage. I mean, they're (long rods) easier to cast that way but give a lot of advantage to the fish. He'd be cheating much more (to me) if he had caught it with lead trolling line off a downrigger (short) boat rod with a fly reel on it or something.

Just my take.

Gene

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 1:09:46 PM UTC-5, Jeff Silvan wrote:
My very official unofficial opinion is that the entry will get disqualified for being caught with equipment that violates IGFA rules. The regulations state the butt of the rod may extend no more than 6 inches from the center of the reel on single handed rods, and no more than 10 inches on two-handed spey rods. From the video, it looks like the butt section is at least 16 inches, if not more. Heck, the butt is just about in his armpit when he's gripping the rod right in front of the reel.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Parker <pacl...@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a video of the catch and it is definitely a funky looking rod, but appears to be legit. https://vimeo.com/145483311

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 10:39:15 AM UTC-5, Andy Thomas wrote:
The orvis blog posted this story as well. Appears kind of cheating to me though. If you take a closer look at the "fly rod", it's actually just a metal pole with a fly reel taped to it. Judging from the background, they were likely just deep trolling with a fly attached to a metal pole. Not exactly what we've come to know as fly fishing.

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 9:27:37 AM UTC-5, Aaron O wrote:
Minnesota man caught a record 57 inch 50 pound Muskie on a fly. Check out the article.
http://www.kaaltv.com/article/stories/s3959627.shtml
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