Monday, November 27, 2023

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Gunpowder Day Dec 2 - TPFR / TU - Details and map

Reminder - Saturday  --  gear up for Gunpowder Day with TPFR and NVATU
A beautiful day for fishing !

On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 10:21:27 AM UTC-5 Doug Graebner wrote:
I haven't fished the Gunpowder much recently but when I did this time of year my typical rig was something like a #16-18 pheasant tail or copper john with a slightly long dropper and a #20 or maybe even 22 zebra midge or similar midge-ish thing.
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 9:08:42 AM UTC-5 David Vazquez wrote:
Hey folks. Any recommended patterns/sizes beyond "nymphs and streamers?" 

Dave

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 10:54:31 AM UTC-5 jbro...@gmail.com wrote:
See the attached PDF with details and map for the Fishing on the Gunpowder day with TPFR and NVTU.

Come on out !!!

Well, with the low water and closing of the Shenandoah Park, the trout fishing has been tough.  So if your hankerin' do some fishin', or want to practice those techniques you just learned at those upcoming Orvis Euro Nymphing classes with Bryan Donoway (also on the Gunpowder - see Orvis Arlington), or just want to fish the wonderful Gunpowder River  --  mark your calendar to join us for a day on the Gunpowder.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fwd: 4MR kayak launch progress -- good news!


TPFR Forum Subscribers, below is the latest news on the 4MR "All Abilities Kayak Launch". 

Just $18,000 more is needed to fully fund the project. November 28 is Giving Tuesday. Your Donations would be appreciated. 

Donate Now
Tight Lines
Daniel Lazenby
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Subject: 4MR kayak launch progress -- good news!
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Grants, permits, construction start expected soon
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Dear Daniel,

We have made much progress in the last several months toward our project to establish the first fully-accessible river access point in the DC metro area. Here are the key milestones that we have reached:

  • EXAMPLE - Rankin lake Gastonia NC.jpgWe were recently awarded two grants totaling $148K, bringing us very close to full funding (see details)
  • An important and required step, our environmental assessment and application for categorical exclusion under the National Environmental Policy Act has been reviewed by federal agencies and approved (NEPA documents available here)
  • All permit applications are in, and final construction plans have been submitted
  • We anticipate construction starting in early 2024!

As of this writing, our project funding stands at $482,764, just shy of the $500K funding goal. Help us close the gap on Giving Tuesday, November 28 -- donate and spread the word!

Donate Now

Thank you for your support and stewardship at lower Four Mile Run, and have a wonderful Thanksgiving.


Sincerely,

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Kurt Moser
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UPCOMING EVENTS

P1026083 2.jpegBird Walks: We have been partnering with the Audubon Society of Northern VA on an initiative called Stretch Our Parks, which includes bird walks led by ASNV birders. The next one is at 3pm Friday, November 17: Bird Walk with Andreas Seiter. Also, our annual Fall Hawk Walk takes place on Sunday, November 26.

Pop-up Nature Center: 
Visit us at the Sunday Four Mile Run Farmers & Artisans Market to learn about raptors on November 19, and about winter weather on December 3.
4MR Holiday Makers Mkt 2023_V2.jpgBoth days 9am-noon at 4109 Mount Vernon Avenue, Alexandria, VA 22305.


Holiday Makers' Market
: On Sunday, December 3, the Four Mile Run Farmers & Artisans Market holds their second annual holiday market at Four Mile Run Park. Check out the 30+ local vendors and enjoy live music from 9am-1pm at 4109 Mount Vernon Avenue. Details on the 
4MR Market website.

Lantern walk 2021.JPGWinter Solstice Lantern Walk: Make a decorative candle lantern, and/or bring a decorated flashlight or other fun light source for a solstice night walk through Four Mile Run Park on Thursday, December 21.

For these and other events, see the Events Calendar

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Thursday, November 23, 2023

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Sunday, November 19, 2023

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Gunpowder Day Dec 2 - TPFR / TU - Details and map

I haven't fished the Gunpowder much recently but when I did this time of year my typical rig was something like a #16-18 pheasant tail or copper john with a slightly long dropper and a #20 or maybe even 22 zebra midge or similar midge-ish thing.
On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 9:08:42 AM UTC-5 David Vazquez wrote:
Hey folks. Any recommended patterns/sizes beyond "nymphs and streamers?" 

Dave

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 10:54:31 AM UTC-5 jbro...@gmail.com wrote:
See the attached PDF with details and map for the Fishing on the Gunpowder day with TPFR and NVTU.

Come on out !!!

Well, with the low water and closing of the Shenandoah Park, the trout fishing has been tough.  So if your hankerin' do some fishin', or want to practice those techniques you just learned at those upcoming Orvis Euro Nymphing classes with Bryan Donoway (also on the Gunpowder - see Orvis Arlington), or just want to fish the wonderful Gunpowder River  --  mark your calendar to join us for a day on the Gunpowder.

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Saturday, November 18, 2023

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Gunpowder Day Dec 2 - TPFR / TU - Details and map

Hey folks. Any recommended patterns/sizes beyond "nymphs and streamers?" 

Dave

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 10:54:31 AM UTC-5 jbro...@gmail.com wrote:
See the attached PDF with details and map for the Fishing on the Gunpowder day with TPFR and NVTU.

Come on out !!!

Well, with the low water and closing of the Shenandoah Park, the trout fishing has been tough.  So if your hankerin' do some fishin', or want to practice those techniques you just learned at those upcoming Orvis Euro Nymphing classes with Bryan Donoway (also on the Gunpowder - see Orvis Arlington), or just want to fish the wonderful Gunpowder River  --  mark your calendar to join us for a day on the Gunpowder.

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Friday, November 17, 2023

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Gunpowder Day Dec 2 - TPFR / TU - Details and map

Thanks for organizing.  I live in the McLean area, happy to carpool with a few folks from the area out that way.  

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 10:54 AM jbro...@gmail.com <jbrolter@gmail.com> wrote:
See the attached PDF with details and map for the Fishing on the Gunpowder day with TPFR and NVTU.

Come on out !!!

Well, with the low water and closing of the Shenandoah Park, the trout fishing has been tough.  So if your hankerin' do some fishin', or want to practice those techniques you just learned at those upcoming Orvis Euro Nymphing classes with Bryan Donoway (also on the Gunpowder - see Orvis Arlington), or just want to fish the wonderful Gunpowder River  --  mark your calendar to join us for a day on the Gunpowder.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4MR Tilapia

I dare you to eat one.

 

 

=)

 

From: Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rob Snowhite <robsnowhite@gmail.com>
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Date: Friday, November 17, 2023 at 4:12 PM
To: Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com>
Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4MR Tilapia

 

Beautiful weather out on 4MR today. Water was crystal clear at high tide with fish higher up near Mt. Vernon Bridge which is quite unusual for this time of year. 

 

The other strange thing was sight casting to tilapia with a size 14 pink Rainbow Warrior. At first I thought they were crappie by the depth of their body and they looked like a west coast surf perch through the clear water. The fly was dropped behind a worm as an indicator. When the worm moved back the hook was set. We landed 2 out of the 3 that ate. The fight was much stronger than expected on a 5wt. Several were at the outflow with a few more down river. 

 

Loads of largies and red breast too with baby shad at the outflow at higher tide. 

 

~ Snowhite 






 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4MR Tilapia

Wow. I had no idea tilapia were in any of the Potomac tributaries. 

Thanks for sharing!

-Sean 


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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4MR Tilapia
 
Beautiful weather out on 4MR today. Water was crystal clear at high tide with fish higher up near Mt. Vernon Bridge which is quite unusual for this time of year. 

The other strange thing was sight casting to tilapia with a size 14 pink Rainbow Warrior. At first I thought they were crappie by the depth of their body and they looked like a west coast surf perch through the clear water. The fly was dropped behind a worm as an indicator. When the worm moved back the hook was set. We landed 2 out of the 3 that ate. The fight was much stronger than expected on a 5wt. Several were at the outflow with a few more down river. 

Loads of largies and red breast too with baby shad at the outflow at higher tide. 

~ Snowhite 







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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4MR Tilapia

Beautiful weather out on 4MR today. Water was crystal clear at high tide with fish higher up near Mt. Vernon Bridge which is quite unusual for this time of year. 

The other strange thing was sight casting to tilapia with a size 14 pink Rainbow Warrior. At first I thought they were crappie by the depth of their body and they looked like a west coast surf perch through the clear water. The fly was dropped behind a worm as an indicator. When the worm moved back the hook was set. We landed 2 out of the 3 that ate. The fight was much stronger than expected on a 5wt. Several were at the outflow with a few more down river. 

Loads of largies and red breast too with baby shad at the outflow at higher tide. 

~ Snowhite 







Sent from my iPhone

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Gunpowder Day Dec 2 - TPFR / TU - Details and map

See the attached PDF with details and map for the Fishing on the Gunpowder day with TPFR and NVTU.

Come on out !!!

Well, with the low water and closing of the Shenandoah Park, the trout fishing has been tough.  So if your hankerin' do some fishin', or want to practice those techniques you just learned at those upcoming Orvis Euro Nymphing classes with Bryan Donoway (also on the Gunpowder - see Orvis Arlington), or just want to fish the wonderful Gunpowder River  --  mark your calendar to join us for a day on the Gunpowder.

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Monday, November 13, 2023

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Save The Date -- Saturday, Dec 2 on the Gunpowder with TPFR and TU

Yes, this Gunpowder Fishing Day (12/2) is posted on the TPFR Events page: 

https://www.tpfr.org/events

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 10:56:32 AM UTC-5 Daniel Lazenby wrote:
Has this event been published on our Chapter's Website Event Page?

Daniel


On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 10:08 AM Z Onk <zon...@gmail.com> wrote:
Small correction to the post.    The  correct date is Saturday DEC 2.

[ i have fat fingers and hit the wrong key in the original post  :-(   ] 

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-4 jbro...@gmail.com wrote:
Gunpowder Fishing Day,   Saturday - Dec 4
Organized and sponsored by    TPFR and the Northern VA chapter of TU

Well, with the low water and closing of the Shenandoah Park, the trout fishing has been tough.  So if your hankerin' do some fishin', or want to practice those techniques you just learned at those upcoming Orvis Euro Nymphing classes with Bryan Donoway (also on the Gunpowder - see Orvis Arlington), or just want to fish the wonderful Gunpowder River  --  mark your calendar to join us for a day on the Gunpowder.

We will post details in the upcoming weeks but mark the calendar now.
It will be awesome!

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Sunday, November 12, 2023

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CASTING - Sunday 12 November - Fletchter's

Thanks to everyone who showed up for a chilly Casting Church this morning! 

It was especially good to have John Bilotta with us, as I'm sure that everyone who had the opportunity to work with him can attest. For those looking to up their game, John is certified by Fly Fishers International as a Master Casting Instructor for both single and two-handed rods . 

Hope to see new and familiar faces next month (or Monday night, for the beer tie at the Colony Grill in Clarendon). 

Best, 
Owen Williams



On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 4:39:18 PM UTC-5 John Bilotta Fly Fishing wrote:

Looking forward to it.

John

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On Nov 7, 2023, at 6:53 PM, J4FlyFishing <jstrawl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good evening:  what equipment do you need to bring for the casting church,   I'm a novice who has been out a few times on guided trips so I haven't invested in all of the equipment yet. Still trying to figure out exactly what to get.   Thanks.


On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 7:12:39 PM UTC-5 Regan Burmeister wrote:
We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 12 November at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am. 

This Casting Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.

Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.

Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges.

If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help.  There will be casting instructors on hand.
If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.

Regan

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Save The Date -- Saturday, Dec 2 on the Gunpowder with TPFR and TU

Has this event been published on our Chapter's Website Event Page?

Daniel


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Small correction to the post.    The  correct date is Saturday DEC 2.

[ i have fat fingers and hit the wrong key in the original post  :-(   ] 

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-4 jbro...@gmail.com wrote:
Gunpowder Fishing Day,   Saturday - Dec 4
Organized and sponsored by    TPFR and the Northern VA chapter of TU

Well, with the low water and closing of the Shenandoah Park, the trout fishing has been tough.  So if your hankerin' do some fishin', or want to practice those techniques you just learned at those upcoming Orvis Euro Nymphing classes with Bryan Donoway (also on the Gunpowder - see Orvis Arlington), or just want to fish the wonderful Gunpowder River  --  mark your calendar to join us for a day on the Gunpowder.

We will post details in the upcoming weeks but mark the calendar now.
It will be awesome!

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Friday, November 10, 2023

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CASTING - Sunday 12 November - Fletchter's


Looking forward to it.

John

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On Nov 7, 2023, at 6:53 PM, J4FlyFishing <jstrawley31619@gmail.com> wrote:

Good evening:  what equipment do you need to bring for the casting church,   I'm a novice who has been out a few times on guided trips so I haven't invested in all of the equipment yet. Still trying to figure out exactly what to get.   Thanks.

On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 7:12:39 PM UTC-5 Regan Burmeister wrote:
We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 12 November at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am. 

This Casting Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.

Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.

Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges.

If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help.  There will be casting instructors on hand.
If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.

Regan

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Wednesday, November 8, 2023

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CASTING - Sunday 12 November - Fletchter's

Thank you.  Don't quite have the rod and reel yet … still shopping around … so good to know that it is still worth the trip over.  

Thanks again. 

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On Nov 8, 2023, at 9:22 AM, Owen Williams <eowilliams11@gmail.com> wrote:

If you have a rod and reel, bring it, but I'll bring spares and you can also throw them.  We'll be casting in the grass and maybe on the riverbank to practice our roll casts. 

It's good to bring a heavy leader (Ox to 2x) to practice -- no reason to trash a nice 5x for practice. 

No need for waders unless you WANT to get in the river. 

I hope this is helpful. Reach out again if you need more specifics. 

Best, 
Owen Williams


On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 6:53:40 PM UTC-5 J4FlyFishing wrote:
Good evening:  what equipment do you need to bring for the casting church,   I'm a novice who has been out a few times on guided trips so I haven't invested in all of the equipment yet. Still trying to figure out exactly what to get.   Thanks.

On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 7:12:39 PM UTC-5 Regan Burmeister wrote:
We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 12 November at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am. 

This Casting Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.

Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.

Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges.

If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help.  There will be casting instructors on hand.
If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.

Regan

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CASTING - Sunday 12 November - Fletchter's

If you have a rod and reel, bring it, but I'll bring spares and you can also throw them.  We'll be casting in the grass and maybe on the riverbank to practice our roll casts. 

It's good to bring a heavy leader (Ox to 2x) to practice -- no reason to trash a nice 5x for practice. 

No need for waders unless you WANT to get in the river. 

I hope this is helpful. Reach out again if you need more specifics. 

Best, 
Owen Williams


On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 6:53:40 PM UTC-5 J4FlyFishing wrote:
Good evening:  what equipment do you need to bring for the casting church,   I'm a novice who has been out a few times on guided trips so I haven't invested in all of the equipment yet. Still trying to figure out exactly what to get.   Thanks.

On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 7:12:39 PM UTC-5 Regan Burmeister wrote:
We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 12 November at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am. 

This Casting Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.

Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.

Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges.

If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help.  There will be casting instructors on hand.
If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.

Regan

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CASTING - Sunday 12 November - Fletchter's

Good evening:  what equipment do you need to bring for the casting church,   I'm a novice who has been out a few times on guided trips so I haven't invested in all of the equipment yet. Still trying to figure out exactly what to get.   Thanks.

On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 7:12:39 PM UTC-5 Regan Burmeister wrote:
We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 12 November at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am. 

This Casting Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.

Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.

Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges.

If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help.  There will be casting instructors on hand.
If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.

Regan

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} West Virginia license

Great point.

I'm not in Pennsylvania alot, but I ended up doing their 12-month non-resident for the same reason.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 12:26 PM namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Russell. That's a bit of change for 3 days. The bite would be less and more attractive if WV offered a 12-month long non-resident license. 

On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 4:38:20 PM UTC-5 russell...@gmail.com wrote:
You'll need to register on the West Virginia DNR site. This is where you'll buy your license and stamps:



This website gives the fee breakdowns:

But in summary, for non resident trout fishing, you'll need:

1) Conservation Stamp: $13
2) Trout Stamp: $16
3) License ($3 a day for 3 days): $9

4)If the fishing will be in a national forest: $2

Hope this helps. I just did a little fishing this past weekend in WV at Seneca Lake so just had to look it all up. 


Russell

Sent from my phone. 

On Nov 6, 2023, at 3:53 PM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:

Can somebody tell me what I need in the way of licenses/permits to fish for 3 days in December in West Virginia? My tired brain is not up to the task today.

Thanks!

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