Thursday, August 12, 2021

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Recommendation of best options for week long fishing excursion week of June 21

No, we targeted smallies on the third day. I didn't do much, but my dad got his PB, so it wasn't a complete wash.

I hear that George Layton at Orvis Tysons has spots for his fall trip if anyone is interested. I'll definitely be going back. 

On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 1:59:58 PM UTC-4 mish...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, what a hell of a fish!! Nicely done.

Did you give the stripers a shot?

On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:57:37 AM UTC-4 eowill...@gmail.com wrote:
Good news, Misha! We only needed to go to 6x tippet and size 20 midges. (NB, out of the water for < 30 seconds and swam away strongly thanks to before and after rejuvenating)

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On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 7:19:06 AM UTC-4 Owen Williams wrote:
Excellent advice again, MIsha. 7X will be a great challenge!

Many thanks for your generosity (a hallmark of this group). 

Best, 
Owen


On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 4:03:48 PM UTC-4 mish...@gmail.com wrote:
Owen, one other note for the Holston, here's a tip for fishing the sulfurs. They sell a lot of CDC comparaduns at the shops down there, and they work really well, just don't forget your silica dust of choice (the brush ones, like Frog's Fanny, work better for working the silica dust into CDC fibers). If you find yourself presenting the fly downstream, definitely let your fly swing after the dead drift presentation is complete. I had one day where the fish were porpoising out of the water for my fly when I did that. Super fun. Ugh another note just came to me. I used a 5' furled leader to get an extra long leader, and it helped. Those fish are spooky in the low water. You'll primarily fish 6x tippet, and may even need 7x flouro at times. Once you figure out the rig, it's stellar.

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 3:57:45 PM UTC-4 Misha Gill wrote:
You're welcome Owen! Hope you have an epic trip, I'm very jealous of the extravaganza you have planned. Good luck on the Beaverkill Gregg, that oughta be amazing as well, looking forward to your report. 

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 8:39:09 AM UTC-4 grock...@gmail.com wrote:
Misha.  Thanks for the guidance.  I booked a camp site on the Beaverkill for next week and will give a report back to the group on my experience of the Catskills.  Gregg

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 6:31:04 PM UTC-4 Doug Graebner wrote:

My dad used to LOVE the upper Delaware, although I struggled the one time I fished it, incompetent nincompoop that I am. Never fished the S. Fork Holston, although I did go on a trip to Damascus VA and very much liked spending time there. TBH if the fishing's an utter wash on the S. Fork Holston, the VA Creeper trail and AT in that area should make for a nice little excursion too.

*also there's Whitetop Laurel Creek near there, although that's a freestoner so I have grave doubts about how good the fishing will be in June. But we'd be talking well up in the mountains and it's a pretty large stream so there's an off chance it'll be good maybe? God I want to go back and give it a shot.
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 9:44:03 PM UTC-4 jkg...@gmail.com wrote:
You might consider some bottom discharge tailwaters river such as:
Smith River - wild browns and stocked rainbows
S Fork of the Holston
Upper Delaware River in New York

If you are willing to drive further, the Upper Holston and Farmington Rivers in CT are pretty awesome. 

If you want a variety of fishing on one river, try the Juniata in PA.  From trout in the Little J and the Frankstown Branch, to freshwater stripers in Raystown Lake (formed by Army Corps of Engineers dam on the Juniata), to smallmouth fishing, especially from Lewistown down to the confluence with the Susquehanna.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 8:09 PM Doug Graebner <dgrae...@gmail.com> wrote:
I will second-third the suggestions for south-central PA, Harrisburg, and the State College area's spring creeks. You could also check out the Shenandoah and upper Potomac, but the other respondents in here seem to have a better handle on the smallies (although I keep getting told that I should fish the James upstream of Lynchburg, never mind that I don't have any good rods for smallies down here). One other option I don't think that has been mentioned for trout is the Savage/North Branch of the Potomac system; they're both tailwaters so should stay good well into the summer (and only ~3 hours from DC!) But yes, a lot will depend on water level. Erie, PA seems like a good option as well for lake smallies based on some articles I read a while back about then, and that may be less sensitive to rainfall (although I don't know jack about lake fishing).

If you have your heart set on trout as an option, you could also do a combined trip-a few days on say the Susquehanna or Shenandoah and some time on spring creeks near where you go.
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 2:41:31 PM UTC-4 klb...@gmail.com wrote:
I have heard second hand that parts of the New River in south west Virginia is hot  for smallmouth right now.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 1:49 PM Carl Z. <carl....@gmail.com> wrote:
I would consider the Erie PA region for Smallmouth.  Though they might not be in the rivers at that time. 
Plan to be flexible.  Temperature and Water levels are going to drive fishing choices.  There might be good trout fishing in North Central PA or the Catskills if there is a cool spell and some rain (we need rain).  Morning and evening fishing in the South Central PA region should be ok (they are spring fed),  But Smallmouth would be my preference if you want to plan ahead.  Even that is iffy due to potential heavy rain anywhere.  Welcome to fly fishing in the Mid-atlantic region.

New River?  Stay closer to home and upper Potomac?  Or hop on a plane, rent a cheap car (if you can find one) and camp out west.  

Carl

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On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 12:56 PM Rob <r...@robsnowhite.com> wrote:
Flies By Two Brothers told me about the 'Bahamas of west Virginia' 

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On Jun 6, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Gregg Rockett <grock...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey TPFR Fam.

I have bachelor status for the week of 21 June and plan on road tripping anywhere 6 hours or so from the DC area - far south as Cherokee National Forest or up into central NY.  But with this heat, I am sure the trout stream are two warm (I note the comments in the Rose River post recently).

So am I right to pass up trout fishing and instead put in my kayak in some salt water for stripers, blues, sea trout, etc?  I am looking for suggestions of where to camp/put in if that is the case.

Thanks to all of you for always being willing to put us readers straight!

Gregg Rockett

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