Friday, July 31, 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} quick visit to Rock Creek

Rock creek's limited back casting room (and the fact that the P street bridge is several blocks from me) motivated me to buy a mini rod about 5.5 feet long. Dan Davala was also kind enough to hook me up with a discontinued microliter orbits reel for it. It works quite well in rock creek though there are times I still have to sort of side cast.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Valley Creek day trip .... trout porn

Hey man so where did you park? I am heading up to fish that tomorrow.
 
Thanks,
 
JS

On Monday, September 16, 2013 at 8:45:04 AM UTC-4, Kevin Huntington wrote:
Went up to West Chester, PA to visit my parents this weekend.  Pops and I took half day trip over to Valley Creek, got there just be sunrise.  Really pretty creek, very tight so some technical casting is necessary in some spots, but I really enjoyed it overall.  Will definitely be back soon.  The fish are also really scary though, you almost have to wade and hang out for a while until they forget about you.  But managed a couple browns.  Really awesome colors, and really healthy fish!  Satisfied my trout addiction for a few days anyway.
 
Can't wait for October fishing!  If anyone is up for going out to SNP on a Saturday in a couple weeks for a day trip, shoot me a message.  I'm trying to get a group together.
 
 
Tight Lines.

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Thursday, July 30, 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} quick visit to Rock Creek

You inspired me to go back down there again last night. I was wondering how you were getting good angles on some of the deeper spots! I don't own waders and the only reason I've really considered them is because of water quality around here. 

I didn't see many fish in the areas I was able to get to, but I did get a bluegill. I also realized with all the backcasting room in the middle of the creek that I need to work on my form.



On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 3:12:30 PM UTC-4, Andrew LaVigne wrote:
Yes I did. and I don't plan to again, I don't think. May go buy a cheap pair of waders just to use in nasty water like this. 

I really was only in the water for quick moves across the stream between trail spots, and probably was more likely to get poison ivy and ticks than some unknown Water-Borne-Itis, but in retrospect, I have decided that would rather not have to explain to a medical profession that I got a strange rash from fishing. 

On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 1:32:46 PM UTC-4, Carl wrote:
Did you wet wade?

I did this at the Zoo some time ago, but that was during a drought.  With all the rain (and potential sewage overflow) I would do a double decontamination shower.


On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Andrew LaVigne <andrewr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I hadn't hit our nation's backyard creek yet this year, and needed a bass fix without a big drive yesterday, so hit the Connecticut Ave bridge stretch yesterday late afternoon. Some thoughts: 
-there are bluegill everywhere, and they want to eat. go to a smaller popper if that's what you want to catch. 

-if you ever had the urge to sight-fish to catfish, this is your spot. Lots of them in the bottoms of the pools, and every slimy roll is visible in the water. There also were some sucker/carp type fish I couldn't ID, but if you're of a mind to catch them, some buggy nymphs dead-drifted on the bottom would probably do the trick. 

-The creek amazes me with how much it changes year to year - there's some really nice new downed-tree cover in this stretch, and the water depth in certain spots changed as a result.

-Lots of small bass around, but once you see them, they're probably aware of you, and were pretty quick to bolt for cover when a popper or streamer hits the water. 

-Caught a couple nice fish (bigger than any I caught on the Shenandoah earlier in the month) in some slower, deeper stretches. 

-Tan/gold streamers and blue poppers are really all you need - maybe a clouser to mix it up & target the catfish. And a decontamination shower - somehow the water seemed grosser to me than before, possibly because I hadn't been there in a while. Yes, I did wade briefly to get to better spots, despite all common sense & signage to the contrary. Haven't noticed new limbs or strange rashes yet, but we'll see. 



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Wednesday, July 29, 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} quick visit to Rock Creek

Yes I did. and I don't plan to again, I don't think. May go buy a cheap pair of waders just to use in nasty water like this. 

I really was only in the water for quick moves across the stream between trail spots, and probably was more likely to get poison ivy and ticks than some unknown Water-Borne-Itis, but in retrospect, I have decided that would rather not have to explain to a medical profession that I got a strange rash from fishing. 

On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 1:32:46 PM UTC-4, Carl wrote:
Did you wet wade?

I did this at the Zoo some time ago, but that was during a drought.  With all the rain (and potential sewage overflow) I would do a double decontamination shower.


On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Andrew LaVigne <andrewr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I hadn't hit our nation's backyard creek yet this year, and needed a bass fix without a big drive yesterday, so hit the Connecticut Ave bridge stretch yesterday late afternoon. Some thoughts: 
-there are bluegill everywhere, and they want to eat. go to a smaller popper if that's what you want to catch. 

-if you ever had the urge to sight-fish to catfish, this is your spot. Lots of them in the bottoms of the pools, and every slimy roll is visible in the water. There also were some sucker/carp type fish I couldn't ID, but if you're of a mind to catch them, some buggy nymphs dead-drifted on the bottom would probably do the trick. 

-The creek amazes me with how much it changes year to year - there's some really nice new downed-tree cover in this stretch, and the water depth in certain spots changed as a result.

-Lots of small bass around, but once you see them, they're probably aware of you, and were pretty quick to bolt for cover when a popper or streamer hits the water. 

-Caught a couple nice fish (bigger than any I caught on the Shenandoah earlier in the month) in some slower, deeper stretches. 

-Tan/gold streamers and blue poppers are really all you need - maybe a clouser to mix it up & target the catfish. And a decontamination shower - somehow the water seemed grosser to me than before, possibly because I hadn't been there in a while. Yes, I did wade briefly to get to better spots, despite all common sense & signage to the contrary. Haven't noticed new limbs or strange rashes yet, but we'll see. 



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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} quick visit to Rock Creek

Did you wet wade?

I did this at the Zoo some time ago, but that was during a drought.  With all the rain (and potential sewage overflow) I would do a double decontamination shower.


On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Andrew LaVigne <andrewrlavigne@gmail.com> wrote:

I hadn't hit our nation's backyard creek yet this year, and needed a bass fix without a big drive yesterday, so hit the Connecticut Ave bridge stretch yesterday late afternoon. Some thoughts: 
-there are bluegill everywhere, and they want to eat. go to a smaller popper if that's what you want to catch. 

-if you ever had the urge to sight-fish to catfish, this is your spot. Lots of them in the bottoms of the pools, and every slimy roll is visible in the water. There also were some sucker/carp type fish I couldn't ID, but if you're of a mind to catch them, some buggy nymphs dead-drifted on the bottom would probably do the trick. 

-The creek amazes me with how much it changes year to year - there's some really nice new downed-tree cover in this stretch, and the water depth in certain spots changed as a result.

-Lots of small bass around, but once you see them, they're probably aware of you, and were pretty quick to bolt for cover when a popper or streamer hits the water. 

-Caught a couple nice fish (bigger than any I caught on the Shenandoah earlier in the month) in some slower, deeper stretches. 

-Tan/gold streamers and blue poppers are really all you need - maybe a clouser to mix it up & target the catfish. And a decontamination shower - somehow the water seemed grosser to me than before, possibly because I hadn't been there in a while. Yes, I did wade briefly to get to better spots, despite all common sense & signage to the contrary. Haven't noticed new limbs or strange rashes yet, but we'll see. 



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Tuesday, July 28, 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Effective fly

That's pretty neat!

The hand of Vic?



Rust in Peace?  Huh?  Is this thing on?  

Okay, I'm going to bed.  

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 7:19:27 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:
Wow, beats my glove out of 4mr. Wasn't An old ordinance found in a local drain recently? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Melser Bonilla <bonil...@gmail.com> wrote:

Apparently woolly buggers are effective at cathing ammo out of the Potomac :D

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Canal Fishing......for snakehead

This one came from the canal

On Jul 28, 2015 5:11 PM, "Ernie" <ernierojas@verizon.net> wrote:
This one came from a MD creek off the Potomac....
 
 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Effective fly

Wow, beats my glove out of 4mr. Wasn't An old ordinance found in a local drain recently? 

Sent from my iPhone

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Apparently woolly buggers are effective at cathing ammo out of the Potomac :D

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Effective fly

Apparently woolly buggers are effective at cathing ammo out of the Potomac :D

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Canal Fishing......for snakehead

This one came from a MD creek off the Potomac....
 
 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Canal Fishing......for snakehead

this one from the Canal or the river?

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 3:08:01 PM UTC-4, Ernie wrote:

This is what the mouth of a snakehead looks like!




 
 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: quick visit to Rock Creek



On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 2:06:55 PM UTC-4, tperkins wrote:
 
Though it is also a spawning ground for Coney island whitefish. 


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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Looking for a few good men and women for August 1 event- Wounded Heroes Family Fishing Day

Ok will do. 

On Friday, July 24, 2015, Ernie Rojas <ernierojas@verizon.net> wrote:
That would be good. Pete is bringing a couple as well. Not sure how many will be interested but we will be ready. I can always bring a couple as well.

Thanks....



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What are you doing for fly rods.  I can bring a few.  

On Thursday, July 23, 2015, Ernie <ernierojas@verizon.net> wrote:

Thanks Terry....email sent!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Saturday at Fletcher's

I'd probably fish the canal.

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 10:33:04 AM UTC-4, Michael Landy wrote:
Looking for some advice here... I have a few friend visiting from out of town this weekend and I was hoping to get out on the water Saturday morning. Any tips/suggestions for Fletcher's Cove this time of year? I have done well on previous outings during the shad run, but wondering what we might be able to scare up this time of year taking into account high water level and increasing temps this week.

Plan to do a mix of fly/spinning as not everyone in the group has experience on the fly rod. Thanks!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CO Regulation question -- barbless

Gene - what are you trying to pull?



On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:42 AM, TurbineBlade <doublebclan@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks guys -- I'll just make absolutely certain that whatever I tie on is either barbless or 100% crimped.  I generally buy barbless if they are available in the hook type I'm buying at the moment, but that's not always the case.  

Gene

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 10:33:06 AM UTC-4, Grizz Higgins wrote:
Dan, I agree with you and I fly fish the Jackson River in Bath County in Virginia along with many others and I tie all my nymphs especially on barbless hooks. But since I have been teaching fly fishing and guiding for 45 years I have never been asked about other flies in my tackle box or on my vest except for the fly that is attached to my leader. It it's barbless your good to go.....tight lines Dan and best personal regards.

Grizz w.pro-flyfishingguide.com

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:08:32 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Hi -- anyone have experience with how a game officer in CO sees "barbless"?  If I'm approached by an officer and am in possession of a fly box with barbed hooks (which I intend to crimp prior to use) is this a violation?  I figure if it's even remotely questionable, I'll sort and only pack flies tied on truly barbless hooks....which isn't a problem. 

Gene

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CO Regulation question -- barbless

Thanks guys -- I'll just make absolutely certain that whatever I tie on is either barbless or 100% crimped.  I generally buy barbless if they are available in the hook type I'm buying at the moment, but that's not always the case.  

Gene

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 10:33:06 AM UTC-4, Grizz Higgins wrote:
Dan, I agree with you and I fly fish the Jackson River in Bath County in Virginia along with many others and I tie all my nymphs especially on barbless hooks. But since I have been teaching fly fishing and guiding for 45 years I have never been asked about other flies in my tackle box or on my vest except for the fly that is attached to my leader. It it's barbless your good to go.....tight lines Dan and best personal regards.

Grizz w.pro-flyfishingguide.com

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:08:32 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Hi -- anyone have experience with how a game officer in CO sees "barbless"?  If I'm approached by an officer and am in possession of a fly box with barbed hooks (which I intend to crimp prior to use) is this a violation?  I figure if it's even remotely questionable, I'll sort and only pack flies tied on truly barbless hooks....which isn't a problem. 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Savage River

Was on the N Branch last weekend for a day.  Water flows were great. Managed to dig up a few on articulated stuff.  Good luck.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Terry C <flycstrva56@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm planning on going out to  western Md fo a few days. Has anyone fished the Savage or N. branch of the Potomac lately. Thanks.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Saturday at Fletcher's

Looking for some advice here... I have a few friend visiting from out of town this weekend and I was hoping to get out on the water Saturday morning. Any tips/suggestions for Fletcher's Cove this time of year? I have done well on previous outings during the shad run, but wondering what we might be able to scare up this time of year taking into account high water level and increasing temps this week.

Plan to do a mix of fly/spinning as not everyone in the group has experience on the fly rod. Thanks!

-Mike

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: quick visit to Rock Creek

had to google that... 

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 2:06:55 PM UTC-4, tperkins wrote:
Further down below the P street bridge, there is some good fishing too. I actually caught some small striped bass there earlier this year. Though it is also a spawning ground for Coney island whitefish. 

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 1:33:51 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Klingle Valley is one of the few DC streams which supports any of the EPT species -- we dug a couple of mayfly nymphs out of there in 2009.  

Those are fun fish!  Cool report -- 

If you get down a bit further in Rock Creek you can get those sea lampreys meandering around, looking for a place to die.  They're creepy, but kind of neat.  

Gene

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 12:41:38 PM UTC-4, Andrew LaVigne wrote:
There are decent spots upstream and down. I tend to think of the creek in 3 sections for my purposes - 

1 - upstream of the Zoo; usually would park at the bottom of Porter street, near the blocked off entrance to Klingle street. There's fishable water right there, as well as up and downstream, with easy access from the bank. Fishing is not allowed upstream of Porter according to the NPS website. Despite that, there's a sign about fishing in the creek upstream of that bridge, upstream of the Piney Branch confluence. If someone were to fish those spots, specifically the confluence and the 100 yards upstream, there are small & largemouth bass and some carp around - used to walk my dog over there and could spot them from the trail. 

2 - Calvert/Connecticut area - I park at the National Park Police stables off Beach Drive; you can fish up the creek to the Zoo easily. There are trails you can follow to get to some less-visible spots downstream as well. The best spots have taken some serious brush-pounding or sketchy wading to find, so I'm not going to totally give those up. That being said, there's a lot more access to the creek than it looks like from the road. If the bank isn't too steep, there's almost always a cut-through. easy to cross the parkway there and work downstream; there's much easier access about 300 yards down. 

3 - Mass Ave/Normanstone - I park in front of one of the embassies on Normanstone right at the head of the Normanstone trail, hike down, then it's easy to find access downstream. You can get to good water fairly easily, although there are definitely some holes where the bank's too steep, and wading to get to them is just not worth it. There are some pools with tons of fish stacked up (usually catfish and suckers). Haven't tried downstream of the cemetery bridge, seems like access gets kind of risky down there. 

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 12:09:29 PM UTC-4, Jamie Carracher wrote:
Those are nice-looking bass! I live over there but haven't been down to the creek in a couple months. I haven't been real successful down there just because I don't have waders and it's hard to get to some good spots from shore. Also, that water is real funky.

You started down by Calvert? Did you go upstream or downstream from there? 

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 9:41:02 AM UTC-4, Andrew LaVigne wrote:

I hadn't hit our nation's backyard creek yet this year, and needed a bass fix without a big drive yesterday, so hit the Connecticut Ave bridge stretch yesterday late afternoon. Some thoughts: 
-there are bluegill everywhere, and they want to eat. go to a smaller popper if that's what you want to catch. 

-if you ever had the urge to sight-fish to catfish, this is your spot. Lots of them in the bottoms of the pools, and every slimy roll is visible in the water. There also were some sucker/carp type fish I couldn't ID, but if you're of a mind to catch them, some buggy nymphs dead-drifted on the bottom would probably do the trick. 

-The creek amazes me with how much it changes year to year - there's some really nice new downed-tree cover in this stretch, and the water depth in certain spots changed as a result.

-Lots of small bass around, but once you see them, they're probably aware of you, and were pretty quick to bolt for cover when a popper or streamer hits the water. 

-Caught a couple nice fish (bigger than any I caught on the Shenandoah earlier in the month) in some slower, deeper stretches. 

-Tan/gold streamers and blue poppers are really all you need - maybe a clouser to mix it up & target the catfish. And a decontamination shower - somehow the water seemed grosser to me than before, possibly because I hadn't been there in a while. Yes, I did wade briefly to get to better spots, despite all common sense & signage to the contrary. Haven't noticed new limbs or strange rashes yet, but we'll see. 



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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Savage River

I'm planning on going out to western Md fo a few days. Has anyone fished the Savage or N. branch of the Potomac lately. Thanks.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Canal Fishing......for snakehead

This is what the mouth of a snakehead looks like!




 
 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: quick visit to Rock Creek

Further down below the P street bridge, there is some good fishing too. I actually caught some small striped bass there earlier this year. Though it is also a spawning ground for Coney island whitefish. 

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 1:33:51 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Klingle Valley is one of the few DC streams which supports any of the EPT species -- we dug a couple of mayfly nymphs out of there in 2009.  

Those are fun fish!  Cool report -- 

If you get down a bit further in Rock Creek you can get those sea lampreys meandering around, looking for a place to die.  They're creepy, but kind of neat.  

Gene

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 12:41:38 PM UTC-4, Andrew LaVigne wrote:
There are decent spots upstream and down. I tend to think of the creek in 3 sections for my purposes - 

1 - upstream of the Zoo; usually would park at the bottom of Porter street, near the blocked off entrance to Klingle street. There's fishable water right there, as well as up and downstream, with easy access from the bank. Fishing is not allowed upstream of Porter according to the NPS website. Despite that, there's a sign about fishing in the creek upstream of that bridge, upstream of the Piney Branch confluence. If someone were to fish those spots, specifically the confluence and the 100 yards upstream, there are small & largemouth bass and some carp around - used to walk my dog over there and could spot them from the trail. 

2 - Calvert/Connecticut area - I park at the National Park Police stables off Beach Drive; you can fish up the creek to the Zoo easily. There are trails you can follow to get to some less-visible spots downstream as well. The best spots have taken some serious brush-pounding or sketchy wading to find, so I'm not going to totally give those up. That being said, there's a lot more access to the creek than it looks like from the road. If the bank isn't too steep, there's almost always a cut-through. easy to cross the parkway there and work downstream; there's much easier access about 300 yards down. 

3 - Mass Ave/Normanstone - I park in front of one of the embassies on Normanstone right at the head of the Normanstone trail, hike down, then it's easy to find access downstream. You can get to good water fairly easily, although there are definitely some holes where the bank's too steep, and wading to get to them is just not worth it. There are some pools with tons of fish stacked up (usually catfish and suckers). Haven't tried downstream of the cemetery bridge, seems like access gets kind of risky down there. 

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 12:09:29 PM UTC-4, Jamie Carracher wrote:
Those are nice-looking bass! I live over there but haven't been down to the creek in a couple months. I haven't been real successful down there just because I don't have waders and it's hard to get to some good spots from shore. Also, that water is real funky.

You started down by Calvert? Did you go upstream or downstream from there? 

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 9:41:02 AM UTC-4, Andrew LaVigne wrote:

I hadn't hit our nation's backyard creek yet this year, and needed a bass fix without a big drive yesterday, so hit the Connecticut Ave bridge stretch yesterday late afternoon. Some thoughts: 
-there are bluegill everywhere, and they want to eat. go to a smaller popper if that's what you want to catch. 

-if you ever had the urge to sight-fish to catfish, this is your spot. Lots of them in the bottoms of the pools, and every slimy roll is visible in the water. There also were some sucker/carp type fish I couldn't ID, but if you're of a mind to catch them, some buggy nymphs dead-drifted on the bottom would probably do the trick. 

-The creek amazes me with how much it changes year to year - there's some really nice new downed-tree cover in this stretch, and the water depth in certain spots changed as a result.

-Lots of small bass around, but once you see them, they're probably aware of you, and were pretty quick to bolt for cover when a popper or streamer hits the water. 

-Caught a couple nice fish (bigger than any I caught on the Shenandoah earlier in the month) in some slower, deeper stretches. 

-Tan/gold streamers and blue poppers are really all you need - maybe a clouser to mix it up & target the catfish. And a decontamination shower - somehow the water seemed grosser to me than before, possibly because I hadn't been there in a while. Yes, I did wade briefly to get to better spots, despite all common sense & signage to the contrary. Haven't noticed new limbs or strange rashes yet, but we'll see. 



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