Monday, June 7, 2021

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Recommendation of best options for week long fishing excursion week of June 21

Gregg,
    Just to throw a curve ball out there.  It seems like you were kind of interested in trying to catch some fish in the salt water.  If I had a week to myself in the summer, I'd head to the Outerbanks.  If you want to kayak and fish, you can camp at the Oregon Inlet Camp Ground and hit the sound in your kayak by Bodie Island.  There are many other places in the OBX to fish in your kayak with a fly in the sound as well.  There are plenty of Puppy Drum & Speckled Trout to catch.  With that being said, there aren't any fly shops down there, so be sure to bring all your leader and flies if you go.  

Also, if you feel comfortable in your kayak you could go out front on the beach and get a chance at some Blues, Spanish Mackerel, and a chance at other bigger fish like cobia.  

Just saying...  I'd rather be fishing the salt, but I'm sure you'll have a blast wherever you end up!

Tight lines buddy!

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 1:11 PM Gregg Rockett <grockett62@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Rob Shane.  Looking increasingly like the Delaware is the option.  I appreciate all the guidance.  Gregg Rockett

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 11:55 AM Rob Shane <robertpshane@gmail.com> wrote:
If I had a week to myself I'd head up to Hancock, NY. You could pick apart brook trout streams during the day and fish the hatches on the delaware in the evenings. If you decided you wanted to kayak for smallmouth one day the Delaware has that too only a short drive down river this time of year. The NB susquehanna is also an easy drive away. Plenty of small, medium, and large lakes nearby too should that be your fancy. Camping is a little hard to come by but not impossible to find and enough motel rooms and lodges around that finding a place to stay shouldn't be that hard either. Or you can sleep in the back of your car at the boat ramp as long as you don't get caught. It doesn't get better than June on the Delaware anywhere in the east coast if trout is your thing. 

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 11:10:40 AM UTC-4 grock...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks to Rob, Carl Z, Doug G, Jamie G, Kevin KB and Nelson for all the suggestions.  I will report back to the group of my experience.  I appreciate this group's unwavering willingness to share on this forum.  Gregg Rockett

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 jkg...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, just noticed a typo in my post. The river in CT is the upper Housatonic.  Sorry for the confusion. 

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:04 AM Yambag Nelson <northstreet...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the upper delaware would be a great choice.  Those rivers stay cold all summer with consistent sulfur hatches pretty much daily.  There are a couple other tailwaters in the catskills that would make for an diversion if you want to do something different for a day or two.  The beaverkill usually stops fishing around that time but rain and cool temperatures can keep that as an option as well.

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 9:44:03 PM UTC-4 jkg...@gmail.com wrote:
You might consider some bottom discharge tailwaters river such as:
Smith River - wild browns and stocked rainbows
S Fork of the Holston
Upper Delaware River in New York

If you are willing to drive further, the Upper Holston and Farmington Rivers in CT are pretty awesome. 

If you want a variety of fishing on one river, try the Juniata in PA.  From trout in the Little J and the Frankstown Branch, to freshwater stripers in Raystown Lake (formed by Army Corps of Engineers dam on the Juniata), to smallmouth fishing, especially from Lewistown down to the confluence with the Susquehanna.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 8:09 PM Doug Graebner <dgrae...@gmail.com> wrote:
I will second-third the suggestions for south-central PA, Harrisburg, and the State College area's spring creeks. You could also check out the Shenandoah and upper Potomac, but the other respondents in here seem to have a better handle on the smallies (although I keep getting told that I should fish the James upstream of Lynchburg, never mind that I don't have any good rods for smallies down here). One other option I don't think that has been mentioned for trout is the Savage/North Branch of the Potomac system; they're both tailwaters so should stay good well into the summer (and only ~3 hours from DC!) But yes, a lot will depend on water level. Erie, PA seems like a good option as well for lake smallies based on some articles I read a while back about then, and that may be less sensitive to rainfall (although I don't know jack about lake fishing).

If you have your heart set on trout as an option, you could also do a combined trip-a few days on say the Susquehanna or Shenandoah and some time on spring creeks near where you go.
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 2:41:31 PM UTC-4 klb...@gmail.com wrote:
I have heard second hand that parts of the New River in south west Virginia is hot  for smallmouth right now.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 1:49 PM Carl Z. <carl....@gmail.com> wrote:
I would consider the Erie PA region for Smallmouth.  Though they might not be in the rivers at that time. 
Plan to be flexible.  Temperature and Water levels are going to drive fishing choices.  There might be good trout fishing in North Central PA or the Catskills if there is a cool spell and some rain (we need rain).  Morning and evening fishing in the South Central PA region should be ok (they are spring fed),  But Smallmouth would be my preference if you want to plan ahead.  Even that is iffy due to potential heavy rain anywhere.  Welcome to fly fishing in the Mid-atlantic region.

New River?  Stay closer to home and upper Potomac?  Or hop on a plane, rent a cheap car (if you can find one) and camp out west.  

Carl

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On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 12:56 PM Rob <r...@robsnowhite.com> wrote:
Flies By Two Brothers told me about the 'Bahamas of west Virginia' 

Summersville Lake



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On Jun 6, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Gregg Rockett <grock...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey TPFR Fam.

I have bachelor status for the week of 21 June and plan on road tripping anywhere 6 hours or so from the DC area - far south as Cherokee National Forest or up into central NY.  But with this heat, I am sure the trout stream are two warm (I note the comments in the Rose River post recently).

So am I right to pass up trout fishing and instead put in my kayak in some salt water for stripers, blues, sea trout, etc?  I am looking for suggestions of where to camp/put in if that is the case.

Thanks to all of you for always being willing to put us readers straight!

Gregg Rockett

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