Hi everyone -Looking for some advice as it relates to accessing the Potomac for the shad run with a raft (clearly I'm already getting excited about the spring).I know the rowboats are available for rent from Fletchers, but does anyone use drift boat style rafts to fish shad? If so, do you launch them from the makeshift launch at the edge of the parking lot in Fletchers or another spot?A buddy and I have a Stealthcraft Hooligan XL raft and I was hoping to use it to get out there, but I know access is limited. We plan to put an e-propulsion outboard on it soon, but I would love to avoid the long, slow ferry up river from Gravelly point if possible.Any advice would certainly be appreciated.Brian
I'll pick this up for Regan.Waders are necessary IF you are planning to practice two-hand casting with Regan in the river, but they are not required for casting on the grass. In other words, don't let not having waders keep you from attending.Looking forward to seeing new faces and old friends when next we meet.Best,Owen--On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 8:25:21 PM UTC-5 scott....@gmail.com wrote:Regan,Should I bring my waders for this event?ScottOn Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 10:56 AM Regan Burmeister <rega...@gmail.com> wrote:We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 12 Feb at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am.This Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges, particularly for shad.If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help. There will be casting instructors on hand.If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.Regan--
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Regan,Should I bring my waders for this event?ScottOn Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 10:56 AM Regan Burmeister <rega...@gmail.com> wrote:We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 12 Feb at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am.This Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges, particularly for shad.If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help. There will be casting instructors on hand.If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.Regan--
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We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 12 Feb at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am.This Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges, particularly for shad.If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help. There will be casting instructors on hand.If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.--Regan
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Thanks for the advice.Looks like a fair number of outfitters so appreciate the personal recommendations.Art--On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 07:23:51 PM EST, William <wbmathfreak@gmail.com> wrote:I will make a plug for Travis Edens and King Fisher Guide Services as well. Travis was kind, professional, fun, and is easy to get along with no matter what kind of personality you have.On Jan 11, 2023, at 14:32, Sean Steele <spsteele@gmail.com> wrote:Closer to home on the Potomac and Shenandoah, Travis Edens and King Fisher Guide Services is awesome. He hauls in monsters 4 seasons of the year. Great dude. And I think his winter trips are half price.
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I've assisted Chris Campo with derbies on the Anacostia itself, and it is much cleaner than I expected. I know he fishes for snakehead there from a kayak.Andrew Reichardt did a podcast and video on snakehead fishing there as part of the Seven Fisheries in Seven Days project.Here's more info on fishing the Anacostia from the River Keeper site: https://www.anacostiariverkeeper.org/programs/recreation-and-access/I can't wait for the AWRP to turn this around with our support. Shad runs above and below DC!!!Best,OwenOn Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:50:44 PM UTC-5 Doug Graebner wrote:honestly the Anacostia system could be an amazing fishery with a little water quality improvement.On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:50:05 PM UTC-5 Doug Graebner wrote:yea, can't imagine any holdovers but the fact that they thought it was worthwhile to do it is pretty interesting/encouraging. Now if only they could clear out some of the obstacles to shad passage and take out the Burnt Mills dam...On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:38:43 PM UTC-5 Electriclight wrote:Yes, it shows on the DNR Trout stocking map that it was stocked 4/22.
Pretty much in my back yard. Never knew.
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honestly the Anacostia system could be an amazing fishery with a little water quality improvement.On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:50:05 PM UTC-5 Doug Graebner wrote:yea, can't imagine any holdovers but the fact that they thought it was worthwhile to do it is pretty interesting/encouraging. Now if only they could clear out some of the obstacles to shad passage and take out the Burnt Mills dam...On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:38:43 PM UTC-5 Electriclight wrote:Yes, it shows on the DNR Trout stocking map that it was stocked 4/22.
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yea, can't imagine any holdovers but the fact that they thought it was worthwhile to do it is pretty interesting/encouraging. Now if only they could clear out some of the obstacles to shad passage and take out the Burnt Mills dam...On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:38:43 PM UTC-5 Electriclight wrote:Yes, it shows on the DNR Trout stocking map that it was stocked 4/22.
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On Jan 11, 2023, at 14:32, Sean Steele <spsteele@gmail.com> wrote:Closer to home on the Potomac and Shenandoah, Travis Edens and King Fisher Guide Services is awesome. He hauls in monsters 4 seasons of the year. Great dude. And I think his winter trips are half price.
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Good MorningI'm interested in trying…do you have to be a member of FFL to participate?Thanks RobertOn Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 8:04 AM Owen Williams <eowill...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks, Scott! I'll delete that older list...On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 10:08:48 PM UTC-5 sca...@gmail.com wrote:Owen,I think you may have mixed up some your reference material. The Bronze level tasks are done at 35 feet.B1. 35 ft. Pick Up and Lay Down (PULD) Cast, Dominant Side
B2. 35 ft. PULD Cast, Non-Dominant Side
B3. 35 ft. Horizontal PULD Cast
B4. Shooting Line to 40 ft.
B5. Accuracy to 25 and 35 ft. TargetsB6. Minimum 35 ft. Roll Cast, Dominant Side
B7. Distance to 50+ ft.Hauling is only allowed for B7.
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On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 6:55:47 PM UTC-5 northstreet...@gmail.com wrote:Just out of curiosity, what is the reasoning for allowing false casts but not hauling in B2?On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 7:17:40 AM UTC-5 eowill...@gmail.com wrote:For those interested in pursuing the Bronze Level of the FFI Casting Skill Challenge, I'll bring the measuring tape and cone targets and will be happy to work with you:BRONZE FLY CASTING SKILL LEVELThe Bronze Level is focused on developing or reinforcing solid beginning fly casting skills. A fly fisher with this level of proficiency can successfully fish many common fishing situations.The Bronze Level challenges are as follows:B1. Pick-Up and Lay-Down cast (PULD): This cast is fundamental to all fly casting. Starting with the fly at 40 ft., the caster can perform a PULD cast in a near vertical plane with leader straightening to within 2 ft. of the 40 ft. target center. No hauling or false casting allowed.B2. Vertical to Horizontal Casting: Starting with the fly at 40 ft., the caster picks up in a near vertical plane (1 o'clock), makes a series of 2-4 false casts moving down to a near horizontal plane (3 o'clock), and delivers the fly with leader straightening at 40 feet within 4 ft. of either side of the tape. Nearly horizontal means that the fly would travel and land under an obstacle approximately 4 ft. above the surface. No hauling allowed.B3. Roll Cast, Dominant Side: The roll cast is a very useful cast for removing slack in the line or when there is limited backcast space. Starting with the fly at 40 ft., the caster will perform a 40 ft. roll cast on the dominant shoulder (right shoulder for a right-handed person) with the leader straightening to within 2 ft. of the 40 ft. target center. A roll cast tool (artificial anchor) may be used if performed on grass at participant's discretion. The D loop (the back loop) should be established by slowly dragging the line into position such that the fly and leader do not leave the water surface or grass.B4. Roll Cast, Non-Dominant Side: This cast is often used in situations where there are obstacles or the wind is blowing in from the dominant side. Starting with the fly at 40 ft., the caster will perform 40 ft. roll cast on the non-dominant shoulder (left shoulder for a right-handed person with rod held in right hand) with the leader straightening to within 2 ft. of the 40 ft. target center. A roll cast tool (artificial anchor) may be used if performed on grass at participant's discretion. The D loop (the back loop) should be established by slowly dragging the line into position on the non-dominant side of the body such that the fly and leader do not leave the water surface or grass.B5. Shooting Line: This technique is fundamental to extending line when casting. Starting with the fly at 40 ft., the caster will strip 5-10 feet of fly line off the reel. A pick-up and lay-down cast will be performed with shooting line to 45 ft. or more on delivery with the fly landing within 4 ft. of either side of the tape. No false casting; hauling is allowed.B6. Accuracy: Caster will extend the fly to 45 ft. and then strip line in so that approximately 4 ft. of fly line (4 ft. of fly line plus the leader) is beyond the rod tip. Casts are made off the dominant shoulder (right shoulder for a right-handed caster) to the 20, 30, and then 40-foot targets in sequence with a potential of 3 tries at each target. The fly must land within 2 ft. of the target center. In the event of a miss, the caster picks up where the fly landed and tries again at the same target for up to two more attempts (3 in total). Once the first target is achieved or 3 attempts exhausted, the caster will pick up and false cast while lengthening line to the next targets. Two (2) of three (3) targets must be achieved, with one being at 40 ft. False casting, shooting line, and hauling are allowed.B7. Distance: Starting with the fly at 40 ft., the caster will achieve a distance of 50 ft. or beyond with the fly landing beyond the line tip and within 4 ft. of either side of the measuring tape within 3 attempts. Second and third attempts, if needed, can be started from any point. Hauling and unlimited false casts are allowed. Second and third attempts, if needed, can be started from any point.Best,OwenOn Monday, January 2, 2023 at 8:33:19 AM UTC-5 Regan Burmeister wrote:We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 8 Jan at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am.This Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges, particularly for shad.If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help. There will be casting instructors on hand.If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.Regan--
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