RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Slow fishing

Very highly recommended: Travis Edens, KF Guide Services, King Fisher Guide Services - Home (kfguideservices.com)

 

I've done 6+ float trips with him and he's the sh*t.

 

-Sean

 

From: 'Art Friedlander' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 10:14 AM
To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Slow fishing

 

Haven't been out for a bit. Usually fish upper Potomac.

Any specific suggestions for locations to fish for smallmouth either wading or a float trip on the Shenandoah, Potomac?

Thanks

 

On Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 01:32:17 AM EDT, Doug Graebner <dgraebner1@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

yea, tbh my main reason for not going for smallies more (it's actually closer for me than the tidal warmwater by a teensy bit) is that I don't have a boat and teh river looks a tick high to wade.

On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:51:02 PM UTC-4 northstreet...@gmail.com wrote:

One of the Trowe brothers from Mossy Creek was on Tom Rosenbaurs podcast and they both said that if there is a temperature that is too warm for smallies, they don't know what it is.  Pretty much higher than whatever the rivers get to.  I don't think Mossy ever stops running floats unless it is during the spawn.  Certain months they probably spend more time targeting muskies though.

On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 4:15:11 PM UTC-4 lukemor...@gmail.com wrote:

Interesting observations, I mainly fly fish in the Shenandoah valley for warm water species so my experience is limited to those systems. The mossy creek crew seems to revere august as their best month to chase smallies, into the first couple weeks in September. I believe they stop operating floats towards the end of September if I recall correctly. 

 

What is the water temp to not target smallies? I understand the reasoning for trout or striped bass, is there a temperature when you're truly endangering small mouth by fishing for them? 

 

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On Aug 31, 2021, at 1:56 PM, Andrew Sarcinello <andy...@gmail.com> wrote:

I haven't been out a whole lot lately but I second Carl's reply. I usually have pretty poor results until early October. September may be decent this year though since we have more rain than usual and some more flow and oxygen in the streams and rivers. October is one of my favorite months for warmwater species and September is usually one of my least favorite.

 

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 11:08:50 PM UTC-4 Doug Graebner wrote:

yeaaa that sounds about right. Also I had a short leader tonight so that doesn't help. I guess I'm just Rather More Used to trout where "pick a spring creek/tailwater" is always an option etc. 

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 10:06:04 PM UTC-4 Carl wrote:

August is always slow for me.  As the water temperature rises, the Disolved Oxygen (DO) goes down and the fish get stressed and less active.  As the days get shorter and the water cools down, the fish will start getting active again and bulking up for winter.

 

If you want to fly fish in this weather, look for areas where cool water enters warm, or where there are a lot of riffles to aerate the water.  

 

When wet wading feels like you are in a hot tub, it's time to do something other than fish.

Carl

 

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On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 10:01 PM Doug Graebner <dgrae...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is the warmwater bite slow for everyone lately or am I just fishing worse than usual?

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