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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: North Branch Potomac (Wild Rainbows)

If you post your questions on the Potomac Patuxent TU forum you're likely to get some helpful responses from very knowledgeable fly anglers. 

https://groups.io/g/ppctu 

On Tuesday, October 29, 2024 at 1:46:54 PM UTC-4 jhaner...@gmail.com wrote:

Over the past 4 years I have tried to get out and fish on the North Branch of the Potomac (below the dam) multiple times per year.  I have heard varying reports as to whether the river holds truly wild rainbows.  I understand that both MD/WV stock rainbows in the river as well as fingerlings.  However, based on conversations with guides in the area, the population of natural, wild rainbows in the system has increased significantly over the past few years.  Based on the hundreds of rainbows (both stocked and wild) I have caught out of the system over the past ~4 years, it has become fairly easy for me to distinguish between the wild, fresh stockers, and holdover rainbows (i.e. please see below for a picture of a wild rainbow that was caught this July).  

 

I wanted to see if anybody else has had a similar experience in catching more wild rainbows over the past few years in the North Branch (specifically between Barnum and the confluence with the lower savage).

 

Also, wanted to see if anybody has had any luck catching any of the giant browns in the system.  I have dedicated full days of floating miles of the system (Barnum - Rawlings) searching for that one big fish.  Over the past ~1.5 years I have pulled out a ~21.5 and ~23 inch brown (these fish were caught approximately 15 minutes apart) and about 6 fish in the ~18.5 - 20 inch range.  With the exception of 1 of these larger browns, they have all come on enormous articulated streamers between December - March.  Wanted to know if other anglers dedicate significant time on this river specifically targeting the giant browns that inhabit this river.  I often wonder what the biggest brown in the system is (I'm thinking ~27 inches), and also curious if anybody has every done a float on the North Branch using mice patterns.  

 

Also, posting a few pics including a 23 inch brown (North Branch) 17.5 inch brown (lower savage), and possibly the state record fall fish (wish I weighed it), humble brag!  

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: North Branch Potomac (Wild Rainbows)

Good god I haven't fished there in so long! Yea, I remember you could get some of the big ones on hopper-dropper type rigs on floats when I went but it was always a chancy thing and you really only had one or two good shots at one.

On Tuesday, October 29, 2024 at 1:50:24 PM UTC-4 jhaner...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, October 29, 2024 at 1:46:54 PM UTC-4 jhaner...@gmail.com wrote:

Over the past 4 years I have tried to get out and fish on the North Branch of the Potomac (below the dam) multiple times per year.  I have heard varying reports as to whether the river holds truly wild rainbows.  I understand that both MD/WV stock rainbows in the river as well as fingerlings.  However, based on conversations with guides in the area, the population of natural, wild rainbows in the system has increased significantly over the past few years.  Based on the hundreds of rainbows (both stocked and wild) I have caught out of the system over the past ~4 years, it has become fairly easy for me to distinguish between the wild, fresh stockers, and holdover rainbows (i.e. please see below for a picture of a wild rainbow that was caught this July).  

 

I wanted to see if anybody else has had a similar experience in catching more wild rainbows over the past few years in the North Branch (specifically between Barnum and the confluence with the lower savage).

 

Also, wanted to see if anybody has had any luck catching any of the giant browns in the system.  I have dedicated full days of floating miles of the system (Barnum - Rawlings) searching for that one big fish.  Over the past ~1.5 years I have pulled out a ~21.5 and ~23 inch brown (these fish were caught approximately 15 minutes apart) and about 6 fish in the ~18.5 - 20 inch range.  With the exception of 1 of these larger browns, they have all come on enormous articulated streamers between December - March.  Wanted to know if other anglers dedicate significant time on this river specifically targeting the giant browns that inhabit this river.  I often wonder what the biggest brown in the system is (I'm thinking ~27 inches), and also curious if anybody has every done a float on the North Branch using mice patterns.  

 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Chesapeake striper charter...

Peter,

Check out Rock On Charters (https://fishrockon.com/). Scott Barmby is very fly fishing friendly.

Scott

On Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 10:13:17 AM UTC-5 peter odell wrote:

Looking for a day charter for 4 or even 6 people to fly fish for some fall stripers - ideal would.  I used to fish with Captain Russ in St Michaels, but he retired and moved away, we had several days of topwater "frenzy" action with bait, birds and fish.

Weekdays or weekends possible.  Closer the leave point to alexandria, the more preferred...

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Chesapeake striper charter...

Looking for a day charter for 4 or even 6 people to fly fish for some fall stripers - ideal would.  I used to fish with Captain Russ in St Michaels, but he retired and moved away, we had several days of topwater "frenzy" action with bait, birds and fish.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} BEER TIE - Monday, 11 November

Thanks, Rob!

For our intermediate and advanced tiers, Brian Bennett of Vice Fishing Co. will be tying the Marsh Bug. See earlier message for the materials list and more details. 

Best, 

Owen 

On Sunday, November 10, 2024 at 3:55:32 PM UTC-5 Rob Snowhite wrote:

We will tie nymphs for winter fishing at the learning table. A short shopping list if you want to bring your own tools and materials instead of using mine: 

Hooks sizes 10-14

Beads beads 

6/0 thread 

Pheasant tail 

Medium wire black 

Dubbing in any color 

Dubbing tool 

Medium rubber legs 

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On Nov 2, 2024, at 4:29 PM, Regan Burmeister <rega...@gmail.com> wrote:



The Monday following Casting Church, Monday 11 November, will be our monthly Beer-Tie meeting at the Colony Grill in Clarendon (Arlington).

Come on out and meet your fellow anglers, bring your fly tying material and your fly tying questions.

We will have information on planned trips for the year as well.

The event, as usual, is open to everyone who is curious and who would like to attend.

Bring your fish stories.

Festivities begin at 7pm.

Board meeting at 6:30pm for TPFR board members.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} BEER TIE - Monday, 11 November

We will tie nymphs for winter fishing at the learning table. A short shopping list if you want to bring your own tools and materials instead of using mine: 

Hooks sizes 10-14

Beads beads 

6/0 thread 

Pheasant tail 

Medium wire black 

Dubbing in any color 

Dubbing tool 

Medium rubber legs 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2024, at 4:29 PM, Regan Burmeister <reganebur@gmail.com> wrote:



The Monday following Casting Church, Monday 11 November, will be our monthly Beer-Tie meeting at the Colony Grill in Clarendon (Arlington).

Come on out and meet your fellow anglers, bring your fly tying material and your fly tying questions.

We will have information on planned trips for the year as well.

The event, as usual, is open to everyone who is curious and who would like to attend.

Bring your fish stories.

Festivities begin at 7pm.

Board meeting at 6:30pm for TPFR board members.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Drone for the Everglades...?

The DJI drone family always had good quality - you can probably find a reasonably priced previous generation for sale.

Your biggest barrier to use will be the software, since most now have the no-fly-zones GPS programmed. I think the DJIs are all like that. Now assuming you beat that, you can probably get away with using it in Biscayne National Park. I've never seen NPS anywhere around there, and FWC is more interested in controlling all the drunk people on the sandbars than looking out for drones. 

Staying completely legal, you don't have a ton of options, and you may be limited more by driving distance depending on where you're staying. The flats in Biscayne Bay are almost exclusively NPS territory. Everglades park boundary runs along the gulf side of the keys, but mostly with +/-1 mile buffer from land, until roughly Long Key. So until that point, you're limited to ocean side flats or the near-shore gulf side flats. Further south, you're fine anywhere. You can go north of ENP into some of the canals for peacock bass, too. Another option is the gulf park boundary isn't terribly far from Flamingo, and it's stone crab season, which means just outside of the park boundaries, you can find tripletail on the stone crab trap buoys. So weather dependent, you could always ask the guide to run to the traps, but to me, that's a bit of a waste if you only have one day booked.

On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 10:49 AM peter odell <peterlodell@gmail.com> wrote:

I should have thought about the Park rules, so this trip is out for drone footage - thanks for the quick feedback.

How about other places with more relaxed rules?  anyone shot any good footage or have a recommendation for a drone that would work?

On Sunday, November 10, 2024 at 10:09:26 AM UTC-5 Jeffrey Silvan wrote:

Drones aren't allowed in any national park without written permission, which NPS will not give to individuals. I fish Everglades National Park all the time, and they actually enforce this heavily there. Most drones' software also won't allow a takeoff in national park zones due to these regulations, either. Last, even if you want to risk it, check with your guide whether he'll even look the other way while you fly it - his permit to guide in the park will be on the line, too.

On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 8:56 AM peter odell <peter...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm going down to Flamingo to fish for tarpon, snook and redfish early december (guided).

I'm looking for an inexpensive drone that can go up 50 feet, video the landing of some of the fish and then come right back down without a lot of driving. (waterproof/floating likely an asset as well).  my fishing buddy and I are typically trading off, so one of could launch the drone at hookup.

Has anyone done this?  I've seen the results on a few of the youtube channels, but I'm hesitant to go out and buy without some good advice.....

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Drone for the Everglades...?

I should have thought about the Park rules, so this trip is out for drone footage - thanks for the quick feedback.

How about other places with more relaxed rules?  anyone shot any good footage or have a recommendation for a drone that would work?

On Sunday, November 10, 2024 at 10:09:26 AM UTC-5 Jeffrey Silvan wrote:

Drones aren't allowed in any national park without written permission, which NPS will not give to individuals. I fish Everglades National Park all the time, and they actually enforce this heavily there. Most drones' software also won't allow a takeoff in national park zones due to these regulations, either. Last, even if you want to risk it, check with your guide whether he'll even look the other way while you fly it - his permit to guide in the park will be on the line, too.

On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 8:56 AM peter odell <peter...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm going down to Flamingo to fish for tarpon, snook and redfish early december (guided).

I'm looking for an inexpensive drone that can go up 50 feet, video the landing of some of the fish and then come right back down without a lot of driving. (waterproof/floating likely an asset as well).  my fishing buddy and I are typically trading off, so one of could launch the drone at hookup.

Has anyone done this?  I've seen the results on a few of the youtube channels, but I'm hesitant to go out and buy without some good advice.....

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Drone for the Everglades...?

Drones aren't allowed in any national park without written permission, which NPS will not give to individuals. I fish Everglades National Park all the time, and they actually enforce this heavily there. Most drones' software also won't allow a takeoff in national park zones due to these regulations, either. Last, even if you want to risk it, check with your guide whether he'll even look the other way while you fly it - his permit to guide in the park will be on the line, too.

On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 8:56 AM peter odell <peterlodell@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm going down to Flamingo to fish for tarpon, snook and redfish early december (guided).

I'm looking for an inexpensive drone that can go up 50 feet, video the landing of some of the fish and then come right back down without a lot of driving. (waterproof/floating likely an asset as well).  my fishing buddy and I are typically trading off, so one of could launch the drone at hookup.

Has anyone done this?  I've seen the results on a few of the youtube channels, but I'm hesitant to go out and buy without some good advice.....

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Drone for the Everglades...?

May, I suggest checking the national park rules if you plan to be within the boundaries of Everglades National Park?

Daniel

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Drone for the Everglades...?

I'm going down to Flamingo to fish for tarpon, snook and redfish early december (guided).

I'm looking for an inexpensive drone that can go up 50 feet, video the landing of some of the fish and then come right back down without a lot of driving. (waterproof/floating likely an asset as well).  my fishing buddy and I are typically trading off, so one of could launch the drone at hookup.

Has anyone done this?  I've seen the results on a few of the youtube channels, but I'm hesitant to go out and buy without some good advice.....

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} BEER TIE - Monday, 11 November

The Monday following Casting Church, Monday 11 November, will be our monthly Beer-Tie meeting at the Colony Grill in Clarendon (Arlington).

Come on out and meet your fellow anglers, bring your fly tying material and your fly tying questions.

We will have information on planned trips for the year as well.

The event, as usual, is open to everyone who is curious and who would like to attend.

Bring your fish stories.

Festivities begin at 7pm.

Board meeting at 6:30pm for TPFR board members.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Casting for Sunday, 10 November (2nd Sunday of the month)

We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 10 Nov at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am.

Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges.

Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.

If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help.  There will be casting instructors on hand.

If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.

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