{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Last Potomac River Smallmouth Club meeting for 2022

Hey Everyone,

Final Potomac Smallmouth Club meeting for 2022 at the McLean Government Center at 1437 Balls Hill Road in McLean, VA this Wednesday 11/30.  It's annual Member Night.  Doors open at 7:00PM.  Come hungry we'll have some BBQ at 7:30, talk about changes to club meetings in 2023 and do some raffle prizes.  In the past some has been fly fishing gear.

Sorry, no Zoom option or guest speaker this month.  Let me know if you have questions.

Herman

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Were Holmes Run or Accotink Creek stocked this fall?

The DWR have postponed the stocking twice because of low water.  A new date has not been set.  Gregg Rockett

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:49:24 PM UTC-5 brian....@gmail.com wrote:

Usually they are stocked  by now - I've been keeping my eye on the Virginia DWR Stocking page and haven't seen them listed.  Anybody know if they have been/will be stocked?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Were Holmes Run or Accotink Creek stocked this fall?

Usually they are stocked  by now - I've been keeping my eye on the Virginia DWR Stocking page and haven't seen them listed.  Anybody know if they have been/will be stocked?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam in November?

Thanks @Deadbait and others.  Great, helpful responses.  I will check out PPTU and try to join the events.  I've never heard of them before!

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:39:59 AM UTC-5 Deadbait wrote:

PPTU really has all the insight on the Patuxent system (Upper, Middle, tailwater below Brighton, Little). Due to extensive work on the dam the last what - 4 or 5 years? - the tailwater has become wildly unreliable. One day you fish it you find a holdover trout, the other, 70-degree water and fall fish and carp. The latest Conservationist from PPTU has the update on the dissolved oxygen issue at the dam (it's still a waiting game). Anyway, Brighton is almost always a mixed bag. PPTU stocked Brighton in March but the trout would all be dead or moved downstream to the reservoir to deep cool water throughout the summer. They typically don't make a run and come back up as the weather cools.

Radman - your better off fishing the Middle. "Wednesday, October 12th, several PPTU Volunteers float stocked the Middle Patuxent Delayed Harvest section with about 400 brown trout.. The reports from the crew were all that these trout were of an impressive size on average. Many 14-16" fish!!!" according to PPTU.  This gets hit heavily by traditional anglers who often keep fish, but you may find some holdovers in the deeper holes. Try euro-nymphing to them.

https://www.pptu.org/streams/stocking

Please consider supporting PPTU.

Take a sinking line for the pool below Brighton (u never know what u might find this time of year).

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 2:57:27 PM UTC-5 Doug Graebner wrote:

honestly I'd go up there to flyfish for walleye this winter, that sounds fun AF

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:34:34 PM UTC-5 westh...@gmail.com wrote:

I have caught Walleye, LMB, yellow perch, and fallfish below the dam. I never have seen or caught any trout, but the last time I was there was 2 years ago. honestly wouldn't be surprised if snakehead are there now too, and I have seen videos of someone catching pickerel just below the dam. 

On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:34:47 PM UTC-5 radman...@gmail.com wrote:

Part of this area is "fly only", and this map shows some stocking events in the area.  Seems the Patuxent near Laurel was stocked 4/2022, but I assume those fish are gone now?  At this time of year, are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam?

https://maryland.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=fbad23ec650742d0bf5eb229b1fef5b8

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Twisted Hitch Tying Technique From Beer Tie

I misread and thought this involved a trailer hitch.  So disappointing.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Cheers, 

-- Greg

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On Nov 16, 2022, at 3:03 PM, Rob Snowhite <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:



Ryan and I discussed this technique at Beer Tie. How to attache a zonker strip through a trailer hook's loop. Jonathan and I discuss this technique on my podcast (search my name on Itunes) if you are interested in further information. 

How to Make the Twisted Hitch for Rabbit Strip Flies - OPST

How to Make the Twisted Hitch for Rabbit Strip Flies - OPST

Rob Snowhite

 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam in November?

PPTU really has all the insight on the Patuxent system (Upper, Middle, tailwater below Brighton, Little). Due to extensive work on the dam the last what - 4 or 5 years? - the tailwater has become wildly unreliable. One day you fish it you find a holdover trout, the other, 70-degree water and fall fish and carp. The latest Conservationist from PPTU has the update on the dissolved oxygen issue at the dam (it's still a waiting game). Anyway, Brighton is almost always a mixed bag. PPTU stocked Brighton in March but the trout would all be dead or moved downstream to the reservoir to deep cool water throughout the summer. They typically don't make a run and come back up as the weather cools.

Radman - your better off fishing the Middle. "Wednesday, October 12th, several PPTU Volunteers float stocked the Middle Patuxent Delayed Harvest section with about 400 brown trout.. The reports from the crew were all that these trout were of an impressive size on average. Many 14-16" fish!!!" according to PPTU.  This gets hit heavily by traditional anglers who often keep fish, but you may find some holdovers in the deeper holes. Try euro-nymphing to them.

https://www.pptu.org/streams/stocking

Please consider supporting PPTU.

Take a sinking line for the pool below Brighton (u never know what u might find this time of year).

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 2:57:27 PM UTC-5 Doug Graebner wrote:

honestly I'd go up there to flyfish for walleye this winter, that sounds fun AF

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:34:34 PM UTC-5 westh...@gmail.com wrote:

I have caught Walleye, LMB, yellow perch, and fallfish below the dam. I never have seen or caught any trout, but the last time I was there was 2 years ago. honestly wouldn't be surprised if snakehead are there now too, and I have seen videos of someone catching pickerel just below the dam. 

On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:34:47 PM UTC-5 radman...@gmail.com wrote:

Part of this area is "fly only", and this map shows some stocking events in the area.  Seems the Patuxent near Laurel was stocked 4/2022, but I assume those fish are gone now?  At this time of year, are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam?

https://maryland.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=fbad23ec650742d0bf5eb229b1fef5b8

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam in November?

honestly I'd go up there to flyfish for walleye this winter, that sounds fun AF

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 2:34:34 PM UTC-5 westh...@gmail.com wrote:

I have caught Walleye, LMB, yellow perch, and fallfish below the dam. I never have seen or caught any trout, but the last time I was there was 2 years ago. honestly wouldn't be surprised if snakehead are there now too, and I have seen videos of someone catching pickerel just below the dam. 

On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:34:47 PM UTC-5 radman...@gmail.com wrote:

Part of this area is "fly only", and this map shows some stocking events in the area.  Seems the Patuxent near Laurel was stocked 4/2022, but I assume those fish are gone now?  At this time of year, are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam?

https://maryland.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=fbad23ec650742d0bf5eb229b1fef5b8

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Twisted Hitch Tying Technique From Beer Tie

Ryan and I discussed this technique at Beer Tie. How to attache a zonker strip through a trailer hook's loop. Jonathan and I discuss this technique on my podcast (search my name on Itunes) if you are interested in further information. 

How to Make the Twisted Hitch for Rabbit Strip Flies - OPST

How to Make the Twisted Hitch for Rabbit Strip Flies - OPST

Rob Snowhite

 

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam in November?

I have caught Walleye, LMB, yellow perch, and fallfish below the dam. I never have seen or caught any trout, but the last time I was there was 2 years ago. honestly wouldn't be surprised if snakehead are there now too, and I have seen videos of someone catching pickerel just below the dam. 

On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:34:47 PM UTC-5 radman...@gmail.com wrote:

Part of this area is "fly only", and this map shows some stocking events in the area.  Seems the Patuxent near Laurel was stocked 4/2022, but I assume those fish are gone now?  At this time of year, are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam?

https://maryland.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=fbad23ec650742d0bf5eb229b1fef5b8

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Game Changer chart

Was poking around the internet today, and found this great chart, that while meant to market pre-tied game changers has some useful info on shank and hook selection for a variety of changers. 

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0803/4843/files/Game_Changer_Fly_Poster_4.pdf?v=1609434365

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam in November?

Part of this area is "fly only", and this map shows some stocking events in the area.  Seems the Patuxent near Laurel was stocked 4/2022, but I assume those fish are gone now?  At this time of year, are there fish in the Patuxent south of Brighton Dam?

https://maryland.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=fbad23ec650742d0bf5eb229b1fef5b8

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CASTING CHURCH - Sun 13 Nov

Great job today casting in difficult conditions! 

I wanted to share a couple of useful roll cast videos for David and Anna in hopes it comes in handy for their upcoming trip on relatively small water with tight quarters: 

https://youtu.be/aRaCV5c63mY

https://youtu.be/9a4iJ-rXs3s

Best, 

Owen

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 4:32:36 PM UTC-4 Owen Williams wrote:

For the FFI Casting Skills Challenge, there are a couple of us who are able to confirm your passing the "Bronze" level if you wanted to be official about it. But more importantly, these are strong foundational skills for any angler to develop. 

Best, 

Owen

On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 6:45:55 PM UTC-4 Regan Burmeister wrote:

We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 13 Nov at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am. 

This Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.

Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.

Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges, particularly for shad.

If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help.  There will be casting instructors on hand.

If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.

Regan

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CASTING CHURCH - Sun 13 Nov

For the FFI Casting Skills Challenge, there are a couple of us who are able to confirm your passing the "Bronze" level if you wanted to be official about it. But more importantly, these are strong foundational skills for any angler to develop. 

Best, 

Owen

On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 6:45:55 PM UTC-4 Regan Burmeister wrote:

We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 13 Nov at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am. 

This Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.

Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.

Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges, particularly for shad.

If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help.  There will be casting instructors on hand.

If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.

Regan

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} BEER TIE - Mon 14 Nov

I've been asked to tie a wood sculpin at the learning table. If you have any requests for fly tying patterns or techniques you want to learn be sure to speak up. 

See you all next week. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_River_sculpin

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The Monday following Casting Church, Monday 14 November will be our Beer-Tie at Colony Grill.

Come on out and meet your fellow anglers, bring your fly tying material and your fly tying questions.

Bring your fish stories.  Also, we will have a few raffles for some fly rods, reels, fishing equipment.  I will post pictures of the gear this weekend.

Festivities begin at 7pm.

Board meeting at 6pm for TPFR board members.

See you there.  Yes, I will be there,  Regan

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} BEER TIE - Mon 14 Nov

The Monday following Casting Church, Monday 14 November will be our Beer-Tie at Colony Grill.

Come on out and meet your fellow anglers, bring your fly tying material and your fly tying questions.

Bring your fish stories.  Also, we will have a few raffles for some fly rods, reels, fishing equipment.  I will post pictures of the gear this weekend.

Festivities begin at 7pm.

Board meeting at 6pm for TPFR board members.

See you there.  Yes, I will be there,  Regan

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} CASTING CHURCH - Sun 13 Nov

We will have our casting get together on Sunday, 13 Nov at Fletcher's Cove from 8am to 11am. 

This Church will be free form, just working on whatever people would like.

Additionally, we will work on FFI Casting Skills challenges for anyone interested.

Come on out, whether you are a novice, intermediate, or advanced caster, it is all fun to work on solving casting problems and casting challenges, particularly for shad.

If you are just getting started, this is a great way to meet people who can help.  There will be casting instructors on hand.

If you are preparing for an upcoming trip and looking to re-fresh your casting skills, this is a great opportunity.

Regan

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